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(60,015 posts)but there are some real gems in the summation points - and, sadly, they appear to be spot on.
Well worth the watch.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)He really gets rolling at 7 minutes or so. Basically he's lambasting them for being so timid about running on a message of economic populism.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Whether they are incompetent or just part of the plan.
Stryder
(450 posts)This ^ ^.
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)joshdawg
(2,650 posts)Video should be required watching for all the Democratic losers in this past election. They might, MIGHT, learn something.
longship
(40,416 posts)Love me some Cenk Uygur?
OF COURSE, I do.
ctsnowman
(1,903 posts)bonniebgood
(943 posts)weak ass, no spine dems? Most dems don't run to get dem voters, they run to get repub votes. If they can't figure that out they deserve to lose. Debbie wasserman Shultz should be fired and Roanne Barr or Rosie Odonnel put in charge. How can they do worse.
swilton
(5,069 posts)beerandjesus
(1,301 posts)swilton
(5,069 posts)are totally meaningless to use as campaign fodder unless they can be translated into/reflected in job growth in local areas....So saying that candidates need to run around the country touting these statistics (imho) does not translate into votes outside the beltway. To proclaim or to use such statistics on their own would seem to contribute to perceptions that the campaigner (the inside the beltway crowd) is out of touch.
jalan48
(13,871 posts)It should be obvious by now that we are being played by our political system. I think back to 1976 when the Democrats could have run anyone and won the election. Who did they choose, a nice, respectable "Southern Democrat" Jimmy Carter. That was the time when the system might have changed but it didn't and four years later Carter was set up and out he goes to be replaced by a puppet President, Ronald Reagan. I agree with George Carlin, we really have just one political party, the party of the rich and powerful. The purpose of these elections is to make us believe we have a choice when we don't and haven't had in many years (Dukakis and Mondale? Really?). What we are seeing here and elsewhere among Progressives and real "liberals" is the slow awakening to the reality of our real system. Hopefully things will change fast enough to save our democracy, I'm not real positive right now that can happen.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)puts one a lot closer to attacking the problem. But letters to Bernie Sanders, garish signs and rock bands in a park with notable speakers ain't gonna work. It's gonna take rakes and shovels this time.
I would love to see Warren run but she has said she's not interested. That leaves the Democrats with Hillary, which unfortunately, is just more of the same-non-choice.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)would I cut my own throat.
Hillary would just be a female Obama, saying all the right things to get elected then doing what her financial backers want..
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)jalan48
(13,871 posts)ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)jalan48
(13,871 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:41 PM - Edit history (1)
There's the "We got ours" party and the "Ain' gotta cloo" party.
Edit to add: All thru the runup to last Tuesday, I kept wondering WHEN the Dems were gonna start touting the steady upwardness of this country since Jan of '09. The ONLY folks who championed this were the talking heads on MSNBC. I DID hear the facts and figures mentioned on other outlets, but always with a tone as if they were a drag on the country.
IMAGINE!......... Boehner or Turtle or the others who ran on "Turning this country around!" Imagine a clip of them saying that, immediately followed by graphs and figures showing the UPturn of the country that the Thugs want to "turn around"!!! It would make them look as if they were proclaiming they were gonna deliberately drive the WRONG WAY on a one way street!
As much as I loathe ol' Slippery Bill Clinton..... WHERE was the wisdom of his "IT's THE ECONOMY, STUPID!"?????
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Cenk is stating it exactly how it is.
WHY the hell any Democrat could have run on progressive issues and NOT won is a mystery. Just who's paying attention to this?
Stevepol
(4,234 posts)If somebody or some group ever decides to round up all the Democratic political consultants and march them out to be executed summarily and their bodies shoveled into open graves, I would pretend not to notice what was happening if I didn't actually join in to help.
I might not be able to help myself.
leftwritelady
(2 posts)Excellent rant! Love it! Thom Hartmann says the same things.
America is a liberal, progressive country. It's the press that's conservative. Dems need to stop believing the press and start believing in the liberal message. What are they afraid of? That they'll lose? Ha! How's that goin' for ya? They need to stop going after so-called independents. Those people are not independent, they're just not sure of their label. If you ask them about specific issues, they'll say they believe in health care, good wages, unions, clean air, clean water, etc. They're liberal but embarrassed by it. What does that tell you?
Why doesn't the DNC run image ads in all major markets year round, feel-good ads with pleasant, normal people talking about voting and the big issues. Talk about Social Security and Medicare and how the Democrats created these programs despite Republican opposition. Talk about how Democrats are FOR health care, FOR fair wages, FOR clean air, FOR clean water, FOR free education, and on and on. The message needs to be repeated in every market year 'round, every year, including the South: We are progressives, we are liberals - and proud of it. We are Americans, we are patriots - and proud of it.
Let's own the brand! Let's turn the conversation around instead of shying away from it! Let's stop the pandering and start owning the label. Let's link Democrat and liberal with these issues. The GOP has managed, through years of controlling the media, to make politicians ashamed of their liberal-ness. Let's turn that around.