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(171 posts)almost see the NRA sticker on the guys pickup truck. God, Guts and Guns sells.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More. No Clinton, No Bush, No More.
Derek V
(532 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Warren is OUT, so don't go there. SHE IS NOT RUNNING. Sanders can't win. It would be insane to think he can. Then WHO???
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Didn't think so. You might want to climb down off that high horse. There will be plenty of time for that kind of ridiculous posturing when there is an actual slate of actual candidates.
elzenmahn
(904 posts)There has been a movement going on within the Democratic party (especially on Democratic Underground), to "clear the field" so that Hillary appears as the only, inevitable, viable candidate the Dems have. This is what Big Money does (Goldman Sachs loves them some Hillary, may I remind you), as well as a near-fanatical supporter base who I would submit, have been with her since the 2008 campaign (and before). A few of them even pull out their handy-dandy dictionary definitions, "evidence", and poll numbers to show just how "invincible" she is in any election match-up she may be involved in.
The end-game in all of this? Once Hillary declares, you better believe that this same bunch will start demanding that DU enforce the clause in the Terms of Service that speaks against "denigrating" Democratic candidates.
Don't believe me? Just watch over the next few months.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)What would you want, a RePUKElican??? Please, enough of the purist zero-reality off-the-planet nonsense.
elzenmahn
(904 posts)I would agree that JOB ONE should be to KICK OUT THE REPIGLICANS and KEEP THEM OUT. If a vote for Hillary does that, then...OK.
But it won't be with any pride or enthusiasm. She's a tool of Big Money and Big Defense. She's also a hawk - and hawks have a propensity to GET PEOPLE KILLED.
I can't tell you how freaking TIRED I am of being forced to vote for the lesser of the evils, because the lesser evil is - still evil.
Eatacig
(97 posts)All you are doing is giving the win to republicans. Go ahead vote for Bernie Sanders
or Rand Paul. They can never win. Better to get a Democrat in office and work on
the House and Senate then give it to repubs. You people are either really republicans
or to young and naive to affect real change. How many of you voted for Obama
and then didn't vote in 2010 & 2012. I was so naive myself. I thought the youth
of this country were going to really change things but it turns out your are all a
bunch of dummies. I am ashamed for this country.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)controlled house and senate...but let's do it again, only this time go back and get someone old and not new, and this time that strategy will work.
The youth and us voted for change in a big way in 08 and 12 and got nothing...so you can see how they might well be fed up with the empty rhetoric and you may not be able to fool them again.
But if I were betting I would bet that if Hillary runs we will have a GOP president too...and the young and progressives will abandon this dysfunctional party, no matter how much you try to scare them with the GOP boogie man.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)to be young and naiive. 2)I voted for Obama and also voted in 2010 and 2012. I am goddamned fucking tired of being told to suck it up and vote for who we tell you to vote for or else. Then whatever happens IT'S ALL OUR FAULT. BULLSHIT. The PTB better come up with someone who progressives can vote for instead of paternalistically telling us This is it too bad if you don't like them. I really hope I live to see the day the shoe's on the other foot for people like you. Dumb A**es??? look in the mirror Sparky.
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)Eatacig
(97 posts)Maybe you got nothing but I got health insurance. Repukes get rid of it and my husband will be on dialysis within 2 weeks and dead within months. Guess that's nothing to you.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I'm not sure what category Hillary Clinton tribute and GOTV belongs in, but it isn't depicted by this one. I think you'd have to cue some Star Wars music or something with an imperial theme.
We do have to make some hard choices, so what is wrong with Bernie Sander? Does anyone honestly think the current Democratic President has represented the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party?
No, I don't either
This guy does, however: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017229692
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)elzenmahn
(904 posts)...she'll triangulate this into a seeming show of support for both.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)Face it, Hillary is part of the problem.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)NO!