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Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, claimed that Kiev's pro-Western leaders were "miserable representatives of the great Jewish people".
"I can't remember a time when Cossacks were led by people who have never held a sword in their hands," Zakharchenko told a press conference in the eastern rebel stronghold of Donetsk, in a reference to Ukraine's nationalist forebears, the Cossacks.
Zakharchenko said that the country's historical nationalists "would turn in their graves if they could see who is running Ukraine."
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)I think teaparty has no problem explaining it, but rank and file old school repubs?
Is Putin actually both Jewish and a homosexual?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Or as the Magistrate used to say... "isn't he just a special snowflake?"
Manifest Destiny
(139 posts)next to him Jewish? I believe he is. His name is Igor Plotnitsky. Wikipedia points out his father is Veniamin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Plotnitsky He's an ethnic Russian Ukrainian Jew.
http://www.babynology.com/meaning-veniamin-m29.html
Obviously this statement is being taken out of context and used as propaganda. That why he says the great Jewish people. Looks like we are all being played for fools by some of this propaganda.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)newthinking
(3,982 posts)and the actual text was "miserable representatives of the great Jewish people".
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,967 posts)""You are good-looking for a fat guy!" That's insulting?! How?! I was conveying your attractiveness!""
The above pretty much sums up the big but, but, buts being mooned all over the place.
Manifest Destiny
(139 posts)his partner, is Jewish?
Behind the Aegis
(53,967 posts)Manifest Destiny
(139 posts)you think he is a self deprecating Jew? Am I right? The reason the man on the left obviously says 'the great Jewish people' is to pay his partner in the seat next to him a compliment. The US media are running with this theme, but it doesn't pan out.
Behind the Aegis
(53,967 posts)This isn't about who is or isn't sitting next to the speaker, it is about what he said. The Jewish person's presence is simply being used as an "excuse" to make it seem as if it not what it really is. It is nothing more than a version of the "some of my best friends are..." trope.
Manifest Destiny
(139 posts)How do you rationalize what someone else is saying when you are only privy to some shameless propaganda that is obviously being fed to you for nefarious purposes? I think it is quite callous of you to pretend to know what and how it was meant and said. Alas we can agree to disagree, but at the end of the day your basing your opinion on hearsay and propaganda.
Behind the Aegis
(53,967 posts)Your goalpost moving is irrelevant to the actual statement as it wasn't the Jewish man who said it, but rather the dude next to him. I am not basing my opinion on anything other than what the fucker said. YOU are trying to make it out to be something else all together by bring up his "sitting next to a Jew" which, as I said earlier, is totally irrelevant. How is it you think everything which is unflattering to Russia is automatically propaganda?
Manifest Destiny
(139 posts)I see I am not debating with a sound, reasonable mind. Have a nice day. I won't be feeding your hatred.
Behind the Aegis
(53,967 posts)But your personal attacks are noted; which often indicate the lack of substance or a case.
Manifest Destiny
(139 posts)It was uncivil and shows you to be someone who is rude and to be avoided. I'm putting you on ignore. Goodbye.
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