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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 06:47 PM Feb 2015

Putin's chief of invasion force calls Ukraine gov't "miserable" Jews during press conference

Last edited Tue Feb 3, 2015, 07:49 PM - Edit history (1)



https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-run-miserable-jews-rebel-chief-202600532.html#CulMaaf
Ukraine's pro-Russian rebel chief on Monday branded the country's leaders "miserable" Jews in an apparent anti-Semitic jibe.

Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, claimed that Kiev's pro-Western leaders were "miserable representatives of the great Jewish people".

"I can't remember a time when Cossacks were led by people who have never held a sword in their hands," Zakharchenko told a press conference in the eastern rebel stronghold of Donetsk, in a reference to Ukraine's nationalist forebears, the Cossacks.

Zakharchenko said that the country's historical nationalists "would turn in their graves if they could see who is running Ukraine."
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Putin's chief of invasion force calls Ukraine gov't "miserable" Jews during press conference (Original Post) uhnope Feb 2015 OP
GOP loves KGB and Putin...how will they explain their love for this Anti Semite? NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #1
anti-Semitic Russia has killed off Jews & others forever. They're pros at 'ethnic' exterminations. Sunlei Feb 2015 #2
disgusting POS. OKNancy Feb 2015 #3
Isn't the Luhansk head sitting Manifest Destiny Feb 2015 #4
Some people want to be played like fools it seems. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #5
Thank you. nt snappyturtle Feb 2015 #6
More work of our tabloid media. newthinking Feb 2015 #8
Your papers, please. blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #7
It is fun to watch people parse. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #9
You do realize the gentleman sitting next to him, Manifest Destiny Feb 2015 #10
That's relevant how? Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #11
Let me guess, Manifest Destiny Feb 2015 #12
As expected, you guessed wrong. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #13
Were you there? Can you speak for this Jewish man sitting next to him? Manifest Destiny Feb 2015 #14
Can you? Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #15
'Fucker' is a bit strong don't ya think? Manifest Destiny Feb 2015 #16
That was in reference to the speaker, not you. Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #17
Whether it was to me or him, it matters not. Manifest Destiny Feb 2015 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Behind the Aegis Feb 2015 #19

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. GOP loves KGB and Putin...how will they explain their love for this Anti Semite?
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 06:49 PM
Feb 2015

I think teaparty has no problem explaining it, but rank and file old school repubs?

Is Putin actually both Jewish and a homosexual?

 

Manifest Destiny

(139 posts)
4. Isn't the Luhansk head sitting
Tue Feb 3, 2015, 07:56 PM
Feb 2015

next to him Jewish? I believe he is. His name is Igor Plotnitsky. Wikipedia points out his father is Veniamin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Plotnitsky He's an ethnic Russian Ukrainian Jew.

http://www.babynology.com/meaning-veniamin-m29.html

Obviously this statement is being taken out of context and used as propaganda. That why he says the great Jewish people. Looks like we are all being played for fools by some of this propaganda.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
8. More work of our tabloid media.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 05:21 AM
Feb 2015

and the actual text was "miserable representatives of the great Jewish people".

Behind the Aegis

(53,967 posts)
9. It is fun to watch people parse.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 05:32 AM
Feb 2015

""You are good-looking for a fat guy!" That's insulting?! How?! I was conveying your attractiveness!""

The above pretty much sums up the big but, but, buts being mooned all over the place.

 

Manifest Destiny

(139 posts)
12. Let me guess,
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 12:46 PM
Feb 2015

you think he is a self deprecating Jew? Am I right? The reason the man on the left obviously says 'the great Jewish people' is to pay his partner in the seat next to him a compliment. The US media are running with this theme, but it doesn't pan out.

Behind the Aegis

(53,967 posts)
13. As expected, you guessed wrong.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 12:50 PM
Feb 2015

This isn't about who is or isn't sitting next to the speaker, it is about what he said. The Jewish person's presence is simply being used as an "excuse" to make it seem as if it not what it really is. It is nothing more than a version of the "some of my best friends are..." trope.

 

Manifest Destiny

(139 posts)
14. Were you there? Can you speak for this Jewish man sitting next to him?
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 04:07 PM
Feb 2015

How do you rationalize what someone else is saying when you are only privy to some shameless propaganda that is obviously being fed to you for nefarious purposes? I think it is quite callous of you to pretend to know what and how it was meant and said. Alas we can agree to disagree, but at the end of the day your basing your opinion on hearsay and propaganda.

Behind the Aegis

(53,967 posts)
15. Can you?
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 05:34 PM
Feb 2015

Your goalpost moving is irrelevant to the actual statement as it wasn't the Jewish man who said it, but rather the dude next to him. I am not basing my opinion on anything other than what the fucker said. YOU are trying to make it out to be something else all together by bring up his "sitting next to a Jew" which, as I said earlier, is totally irrelevant. How is it you think everything which is unflattering to Russia is automatically propaganda?

 

Manifest Destiny

(139 posts)
16. 'Fucker' is a bit strong don't ya think?
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 05:43 PM
Feb 2015

I see I am not debating with a sound, reasonable mind. Have a nice day. I won't be feeding your hatred.

Behind the Aegis

(53,967 posts)
17. That was in reference to the speaker, not you.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 05:45 PM
Feb 2015

But your personal attacks are noted; which often indicate the lack of substance or a case.

 

Manifest Destiny

(139 posts)
18. Whether it was to me or him, it matters not.
Wed Feb 4, 2015, 05:48 PM
Feb 2015

It was uncivil and shows you to be someone who is rude and to be avoided. I'm putting you on ignore. Goodbye.

Response to Manifest Destiny (Reply #18)

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