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Related: About this forumI used to like NPH.
how satisfying that must have been for you. It must have made it all worthwhile.
djean111
(14,255 posts)had mentioned her son committed suicide. Said it took balls to wear that dress.
NPH seemed to have a lot of tasteless misfires last night.
I don't think being "slammed" by NPH means diddly squat, really.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)The US will continue without Snowden living here.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)I trust you'll be adding it to your own personal highlight reel.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Touché!
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But it is really a comment about the US, who violated the constitution and when someone blew the whistle on them the government forced him to flee.
Now who is the bad buy here?...the one who had to flee or the one who made them flee?
Perspective is the thing. And if you are a my country right or wrong kind of person you blame the victim and ignore the wrong.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)If you are a USA-always-wrong kind of person then you glorify Snowden and ignore the facts
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And my guess is that Snowden is not either...I reject the with us or against meme.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)an obvious liar and attention-seeker. The rest is a mystery. Why anyone would proceed the way he did is just bizarre. Proclaim your fight for freedom and then run to China and Russia? He's got a few screws loose, it seems
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But you don't know him but pronounce him a liar and an attention seeker?
Strange that.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)that show him to be a liar. His actions show him to be an obvious attention seeker.
Any questions?
zeemike
(18,998 posts)You have opinions that square with NSA...but not the constitution.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)drynberg
(1,648 posts)Demit
(11,238 posts)That seems to establish your perspective as being USA-always-right.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)That's the kind of statement one expect to encounter in Freeperville, not here!
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YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Ok. If you say so.
Notice the applause for Greenwald, Snowden and Poitras was greater than for NPH.
I am very happy it won. An excellent documentary by a fabulous journalist about a real American hero.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . the word 'treason' has been thrown about wildly and irresponsibly with respect to Snowden. Treason, under U.S. law is defined -- very narrowly in ONE place: Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
Whatever question of legality surrounds Snowden's actions, it in NO WAY amounts to treason (which is why he wasn't charged with it). Making light or joking about a capital crime is about as funny and tasteful as making light of serial murder. And frankly, anyone who thinks joking about such a thing is appropriate is just sick, IMO.
Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)It is easy to imagine the writer of that line beaming with pride being able to come up with that very clever play on words, using Snowden as the subject and treason as the punch line. So now all that people watching that will ever remember is Snowden not there because of treason. The Snowden treason link is now associated in their minds.
Clever way to propagate the propaganda. Doesn't matter that it's a lie. All the better if it gets a laugh.
uhnope
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