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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:37 PM Mar 2015

Papantonio: Obama Is An Oil President, Period.

If you were to take 90 countries around the world (according to their GDP ranking) and compare the entire economies of those countries against the economy of Exxon, you’d find that Exxon would be more economically powerful than all of those 90 countries. Where do sales analysis of $30 billion a year leave a company like Exxon, Shell, or BP? The simple answer is: it leaves them with complete control of our lives.

What does that kind of money buy? It buys presidents and the entire military industrial complex, all so big oil can become bigger oil.

Mike Papantonio discusses this with author and Rolling Stone contributor Antonia Juhasz.

Ring of Fire.


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Papantonio: Obama Is An Oil President, Period. (Original Post) GoLeft TV Mar 2015 OP
I am not going to comment on this allegation, other than to say the ONLY reason ANY rightwinger NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #1
Mike Papantonio is a flaming lefty. WillTwain Mar 2015 #4
He is a great liberal, on my side of the issues always...If he says it is true, it probably is. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #8
Yeah, man Jack Rabbit Mar 2015 #15
And what exactly is the alternative to oil at this time? 4dsc Mar 2015 #2
Transportation fuels will be oil-based for a long time. WillTwain Mar 2015 #5
BS alert here 4dsc Mar 2015 #16
Aircraft WillTwain Mar 2015 #18
Putting my boots on.. meanwhile, here's some cold water ... MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #17
! DeSwiss Mar 2015 #11
yeah and way before Obama heaven05 Mar 2015 #3
The president has a mixed record on oil issues. WillTwain Mar 2015 #6
Except, imthevicar Mar 2015 #12
Mixed: one part environmental, two parts corporate WillTwain Mar 2015 #14
In our current era ANY President of the United States is an oil president. enough Mar 2015 #7
wolf in sheeps jubbas . father founding Mar 2015 #9
WORD! imthevicar Mar 2015 #13
No blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #10

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. I am not going to comment on this allegation, other than to say the ONLY reason ANY rightwinger
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:39 PM
Mar 2015

opposes Obama is because he is a black man with a Muslim name

period

end of story

you can prove that over and over and over by showing how mainstream Obama is and so on

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
8. He is a great liberal, on my side of the issues always...If he says it is true, it probably is.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:35 PM
Mar 2015

The bigger picture of oil and wall street is the focus, for me

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
2. And what exactly is the alternative to oil at this time?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:50 PM
Mar 2015

Nothing. I'll save you time here. Oil is a transportation fuel for which there is not an alternative.

 

WillTwain

(1,489 posts)
5. Transportation fuels will be oil-based for a long time.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:18 PM
Mar 2015

They are a small fraction of oil usage, though.

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
16. BS alert here
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 07:24 AM
Mar 2015

The world's transportation is run on oil and there is nothing currently available that would replace it. FACT.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
17. Putting my boots on.. meanwhile, here's some cold water ...
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:47 AM
Mar 2015

Here's something to explain what we've been READY to do from the Carter administration. This is from a blog based in Pennsylvania to address how we change the in-place rail infrastructure of the past in the future.
Building a Non - Oil Based Transportation System
The basis for the proposal in the 2008 "Transport Revolutions - Moving People and Freight Without Oil" by Richard Gilbert and Anthony Perl for an electrically powered transportation system is oil scarcity and peak oil.


As they explain, "The skill and effort needed to remove existing policies and dismantle established programmes is far from trivial. Lack of focus on policy termination has undermined many efforts by leaders - across the spectrum of political orientation - to change the direction of U.S. policy. These efforts include, for example, the Carter administration's agenda of government leadership in energy conservation of the late 1970s and the Reagan administration's goal of replacing Social Security pensions with private alternatives in the 1980s. Failures to terminate existing policies have undermined the key priorities of more than these presidents. One analyst noted that the political dynamics of terminating established public policies differ fundamentally from those involved in creating new policies because '...distinctive coalitions generally form on both sides... and that termination contests are usually more bitter and harder to win than most policy adoption contests.'"

"Policy termination." What a useful phrase. It describes in two words the current conflict in the political process. Improved and / or new policy and/ or adjusted policy often requires "policy termination." Gilbert and Perl provide ideas as to how to engage in "policy termination" specific to creating a transport revolution ...


Read it-
http://testplant.blogspot.com/2012/05/building-non-oil-based-transportation.html
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. yeah and way before Obama
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:52 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:12 PM - Edit history (1)

we've been and are an oil greed society with oil greedy SUV's, Dodge Rams, Lincoln Escalades. Please!

 

WillTwain

(1,489 posts)
6. The president has a mixed record on oil issues.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:22 PM
Mar 2015

He has opened up many new areas to drilling. He has been strong on setting higher mileage goals for cars. So, his record is mixed. Overall, he has been a good environmental president.

enough

(13,262 posts)
7. In our current era ANY President of the United States is an oil president.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:22 PM
Mar 2015

So will the next one be, no matter who it is.

Our politics, media, and election system will have to change drastically before a non-oil president can ever be elected.

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