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Warning: Graphic video below. Virginia Police Caught Assaulting Teens, Video Deletion Fails (Original Post) yuiyoshida Apr 2015 OP
Billions of pocket smartphone cameras are producing results zebonaut Apr 2015 #1
What is it going to take to stop this horrible inhuman behavior by the police? nt ladjf Apr 2015 #2
Police Brutality - Plain And Simple - All To Protect And Serve The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks cantbeserious Apr 2015 #3
^^^this^^^ zeemike Apr 2015 #8
Thank you, yuiyoshida… This is nuts MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #4
Send your inquiries to this e-mail in Virginia Beach MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #5
I am not sure this one qualifies as brutality. Hoppy Apr 2015 #6
Dragging Human Beings Forcibly From An Automobile Is Assault - AKA Police Brutality cantbeserious Apr 2015 #12
Failure to follow a lawful police directive to exit the vehicle is a misdemeanor, at least. Hoppy Apr 2015 #15
The command to exit the vehicle is lawful how exactly? tk2kewl Apr 2015 #17
Well, the cop says he smells marij. I agree, maybe its bullshit. Still, its probable cause. Hoppy Apr 2015 #19
No reason not to wait for parents to arrive. What's the hurry? tk2kewl Apr 2015 #20
They found marijuana. Eko Apr 2015 #24
Yup, I thought the kids were awfully well versed on the law Damansarajaya Apr 2015 #25
most absurd statement ever... tk2kewl Apr 2015 #27
I'll give even odds on it being planted tk2kewl Apr 2015 #28
Just found in Yahoo News... www.copwatch.org ... progress? libdem4life Apr 2015 #7
Here's (what I think would be) an interesting investigative protocol ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #9
Good idea. tk2kewl Apr 2015 #21
Dont think Eko Apr 2015 #10
Dragging Human Beings Forcibly From An Automobile Is Assault - AKA Police Brutality cantbeserious Apr 2015 #11
No its not. Eko Apr 2015 #22
Doing their job? tk2kewl Apr 2015 #18
Yes, Eko Apr 2015 #23
The officer should be prosecuted for attempted destruction of evidence. Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 #13
Cops always smell marijuana WhoIsNumberNone Apr 2015 #14
Except that not one but two kids had pot on them. Damansarajaya Apr 2015 #26
It's the new broken tailight scam. father founding Apr 2015 #16
Until cops start going to jail for this rschallack Apr 2015 #29
 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
1. Billions of pocket smartphone cameras are producing results
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 07:09 AM
Apr 2015

all this stuff was happening before pocket smartphone cams too....

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
3. Police Brutality - Plain And Simple - All To Protect And Serve The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 08:55 AM
Apr 2015

Can there be any doubt after watching this video that we now live in a Totalitarian State for the 99% and Oligarchy for the 1%.

Face it folks - America is dead and gone - buried by the minions of the 1%

Both Orwell and Huxley were right in the end.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
8. ^^^this^^^
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:12 AM
Apr 2015

Yep both were right...Orwell just focused on the end results and Huxley on the how it came to be.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
6. I am not sure this one qualifies as brutality.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:03 AM
Apr 2015

Although the first problem is that it is a white girl in the car with what appears to be a minority. That is their "probable cause."

Once the excuse of the smell of marij is introduced, they have the right to get him out of the car to search for the substance or a weapon.

The kid refuses. From that point, they could have kicked the shit out of him. They didn't. It looks like he was struck a couple of times -- not clear from the video.

He was tased. That got him out of the car. There is no indication he was roughed up after he got out of the car.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
19. Well, the cop says he smells marij. I agree, maybe its bullshit. Still, its probable cause.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 11:44 AM
Apr 2015

Then the cop has an obligation to look for the source of the smell. He cannot do that with passenger in the car, blocking access.

So, get out of the car.

Carry on.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
20. No reason not to wait for parents to arrive. What's the hurry?
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 11:52 AM
Apr 2015

And yes "I smell marijuana" is BS so I don't find the command lawful. He had the opportunity to peacefully deal with the situation by waiting for the parents to arrive, or issuing a legitimate summons for something not apparent in the video, but instead chose to escalate because that's was douche bags do.

 

Damansarajaya

(625 posts)
25. Yup, I thought the kids were awfully well versed on the law
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:41 PM
Apr 2015

to not be doing anything wrong.

They didn't deserve the tazing etc. but they were lying big time.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
27. most absurd statement ever...
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 09:54 AM
Apr 2015

so if you know your rights and assert them it must be because you have something to hide.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
28. I'll give even odds on it being planted
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 10:02 AM
Apr 2015

If the cop felt that the driver was impaired then say so and ask that she submit to a sobriety test.

Yeah, marijuana is illegal and so are Cuban cigars... when's the last time a banker got tazed in his car for smoking a Cuban.

Cop didn't like having his authority questioned and decided to teach the kids a lesson by tazing the black one - pretty clear to me.

The cop may have technically acted within the law - but that doesn't make his action morally right.

It's time we made serious cuts in policing budgets and put the savings towards education, job training, housing, and drug and alcohol treatment. Let's create a safer and healthier society by helping each other rather than terrorizing people for not submitting to authority.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
7. Just found in Yahoo News... www.copwatch.org ... progress?
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:05 AM
Apr 2015

First time I started a thread...thought some good/helpful news about civilian power was helpful.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026489298

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
9. Here's (what I think would be) an interesting investigative protocol ...
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:15 AM
Apr 2015

for every incident where there is video of "questionable" police interaction with the public ...

Place the officer involved in a room, by his/herself and play the video for the officer ... and record his/her physical response to the video. And use that response to determine whether that officer is to return to the streets.

I can't imagine seeing/hearing myself acting like this, and not being horrified by the over the top escalation. And, any officer viewing themselves in that setting without showing a negative physical response (revulsion), is an officer that should never be on the street again.

Oh, yeah ... Observation:

The Black male in the backseat that was "17 Yrs Old, sir" that got pepper sprayed, tased and dragged out the vehicle, was more correct in the pronouncing and assertion of his rights, than the female driver.

Both were equally forceful in the assertion of their rights; however, the male (arguably) was merely pronouncing and asserting his rights, in response to the officer's attempt to violate those rights; whereas, the female (despite getting some of it wrong) was (arguably) verbally combative.

I wonder why?

Speculation: The Black male in the backseat that was "17 Yrs Old, sir" that got pepper sprayed, tased and dragged out the vehicle, has a relative (probably his mother) that advised him to provide that "I'm a juvenile and you can't do anything to me (except in extreme circumstances) until my parent(s) get here" response.

Speculation 2: the Black male's college expenses, including a nice apartment with all the toys and new vehicle, will soon be funded, courtesy of that Virginia Police Dept.

Eko

(7,315 posts)
22. No its not.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 09:40 PM
Apr 2015

Since you are the one to make a blanket statement, lets explore that. According to what you said if someone runs over multiple people and commits a hit and run with injuries and the police drag them out of the car it is assault. You cant be serious.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
18. Doing their job?
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 11:15 AM
Apr 2015

Is that how traffic stops go down your town? Let me know where so I can stay the hell away.

Eko

(7,315 posts)
23. Yes,
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 09:43 PM
Apr 2015

If a police officer gives you a lawful command to exit the vehicle then what they did was correct. How about this, when can a police officer pull someone from their vehicle in your world?

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
13. The officer should be prosecuted for attempted destruction of evidence.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:31 AM
Apr 2015


If the unconstitutional destruction, attempted destruction, and attempts to prevent the constitutional exercise of rights (specifically including the right to document truth by videotaping) is not acted on appropriately by prosecutors, police will continue to prevent, suppress, and destroy evidence of their unconstitutional abuses.






WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
14. Cops always smell marijuana
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:43 AM
Apr 2015

'I smell marijuana' is Cop-ese for "I'm going to fuck with you now". It's a total lie most of the time; they just want an excuse to pull you out and rough up your car.

 

Damansarajaya

(625 posts)
26. Except that not one but two kids had pot on them.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 10:45 PM
Apr 2015

I think pot should be legal. But that's beside the point--the cops have to enforce the law.

Granted, they don't have to be this violent and prickish about it, but driving around while smoking pot really isn't a good idea.

rschallack

(24 posts)
29. Until cops start going to jail for this
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 10:24 AM
Apr 2015

it will not stop. Once dirty police start going to jail, thereby ruining their careers, the outrageous police behavior will stop. Police feel emboldened because they see civilians as the enemy and they ALWAYS beat the enemy.

Every single bad cop out there needs to be arrested, charged, and kicked off the force.

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