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(43,890 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)Thank God for the Second Commandment.
libodem
(19,288 posts)They are caused.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)L0oniX
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(10,021 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)yes they do have rules. not that my dad follows them but my brother does. ie someone aims a gun at a webcam he'll get made about it empty or loaded.. Because he build his own AR-15 almost all metal. not a Sig Saur knockoff thats almost all plastic. ie there's my brother who treats a gun like a gun and then thens others who treat guns like toys (dad) who yes actually did aim the Sig AR-15 style at my brother once oh was my brother pissed off. ie NRA rule 1 never aim a gun at something you don't intend to kill. I almost did that once. and will never do so again dad I'm not sure will remember..
But yes that gun should have been empty let alone everyone has their own preferred holster , true I prefer the ones james bond wears , usually hard to fall out... but then again 1. I don't own a gun and 2. I'm a James Bond fanatic. so if I did get a hand gun clearly it's a Walther PPK (brother did not get that. think it's the PPQ um think Pierce Brosnan uses such a thing in his set of 007 movies..
all movie related I like Henry Repeating Arms why? they look cool in Silverado. With Danny Glover not the same maker but fuck it. So yes it's cool to own a gun I'm not anti gun. But between the two. My brother I'd trust with a gun over my dad he's read books and books on the stuff dad hasn't. Brother even cleans dads guns face palm. Waste of money
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)...but this throwing lead is entirely new to me.
Joe Chi Minh
(15,229 posts)a few bricks short of a load.
A pastor's wife on another forum was saying that she and her husband carried a gun to church; even blethering about some 'open carry' nonsense, and evidently with a little pride. I think she realised it wasn't something to talk about, even if she felt arming themselves for a church service, necessary, after I told her that, if she spoke in that vein in Europe, they'd think she'd well and truly 'lost her marbles' and roll about laughing - before perhaps calling for a police doctor, to see if she was compos mentis and a danger to herself.
IronLionZion
(45,562 posts)If you want to see mental illness, go over to free republic and hear them talk about the real reason for zombie/doomsday prepping. It's very important to them. Many of them desperately want an excuse to shoot someone.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that werent secured are out of control in our society. As such, heres what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. Im not debating the legal language, I just think its the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because its clear that they should never have had a gun.
1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learners license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.
Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a drivers license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.
rickford66
(5,530 posts)Insurance companies are the experts at assessing risk. High risk people will be priced out of the market like bad drivers.