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Martin O'Malley live on Morning Joe: (Original Post) elleng Jun 2015 OP
O'malley heaven05 Jun 2015 #1
There is some total BS here, but it isn't O'Malley. O'Malley's FSogol Jun 2015 #2
he stumbled all over that question of race heaven05 Jun 2015 #3
You're cutting a break to the people in charge of the Balt police since 2007 FSogol Jun 2015 #5
I know what the Maryland ACLU heaven05 Jun 2015 #9
Agreed, he's on the right tack there. ...nt dougolat Jun 2015 #4
Also, O'Malley is the only person running that has done something about guns. FSogol Jun 2015 #6
right heaven05 Jun 2015 #8
C'est la vie FSogol Jun 2015 #10
I do heaven05 Jun 2015 #11
Glad you posted this. mia Jun 2015 #7
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
1. O'malley
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jun 2015

political bullshit. Why is always when talking about racist and murderers that they are troubled or some other BS and not part of a racist culture that demeans and lessens the worth of POC. 300000 'stormfront' adherents. Not to mention those that don't make their affiliation known. Morning dump and o'malley stumbling along with the same old song and dance of mental health, talking about guns and individual troubled youths To be fair o'malley stumbled noticeably when pressed on the racist legacy of this culture. His answer was typical political season bullshit. He was responsible for creating a lot of the racist climate used by his police to kill unarmed young black men, that caused the Baltimore riots

FSogol

(45,504 posts)
2. There is some total BS here, but it isn't O'Malley. O'Malley's
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 02:12 PM
Jun 2015

administration took strong steps to police the police. He increasing minority hiring, improved accountability, and fully staffed a civilian review board. Under his leadership, the city reduced police shootings to their lowest level in a decade. Blaming him 7 years latter for current police problems in a city is crap.

Also did you watch the video? He didn't stumble when asked about race, he acknowledged that race played a major part and that there are no easy solutions. Unlike other politicians, he offered no feel-good platitudes or denied the root causes. From the video:


O’Malley, ... said that race appears to be a large part of the motive in the slayings this week of a prominent minister and eight parishioners at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church.

But O’Malley, a former Baltimore mayor, acknowledged he isn’t entirely sure how to address the country’s racial problems.

“I don’t know exactly how we address this,” he said. “Look, we as Americans we all share a very painful racial legacy, and we need to acknowledge it, and we need to take actions to heal it, but I don’t think anybody’s figured out the magic solution to that.”
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. he stumbled all over that question of race
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:05 PM
Jun 2015

he wasn't expecting it. Also he left an over aggressive and militarized police force that had a record of excessive arrests of POC in his city, during his administration's that contributed to the outrage behind the Baltimore riots, according to the ACLU of Maryland. He's no redeeming democratic saint. Nope, he's the typical election year politician skipping over the bad, the police force he created to deal with crime in Baltimore.

FSogol

(45,504 posts)
5. You're cutting a break to the people in charge of the Balt police since 2007
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jun 2015

to reach back and blame him. Also, you are incorrect, the ACLU does not blame him.

From the NAACP who along with the ACLU brought the lawsuit over the arrests

The American Civil Liberties Union and the NAACP sued the city in 2006 on behalf of 14 people who alleged their arrests indicated a broad pattern of abuse. O'Malley was running for his first term as governor at the time.

The city settled four years later, and agreed to retrain officers and allow an outside auditor to monitor "quality of life" arrests.

"There was, I think, a recognition within the Police Department and eventually at the political level that these strategies were counterproductive, which is what we had said from day one," said David Rocah, a senior staff attorney with the ACLU of Maryland.

Leaders at the NAACP — the group that brought the 2006 lawsuit against the city — said they no longer believe O'Malley should be held responsible for the police strategy. Gerald Stansbury, president of the Maryland State Conference of the NAACP, said the organization has a solid relationship with the governor.

"Clearly, the police problems go well beyond Martin O'Malley," Stansbury said. "There's been ongoing mistrust for some time."


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-police-omalley-politics-20141007-story.html#page=1

“What was positive was that there was zero-tolerance for criminals and drug dealers locking down neighborhoods and taking neighborhoods hostage,” said the Rev. Franklin Madison Reid, a Baltimore pastor. “Does that mean there was no down side? No. But the bottom line was that the city was in a lot stronger position as a city after he became mayor.”

Benjamin T. Jealous, a former president of the national NAACP who worked with O’Malley when Maryland abolished the death penalty in 2013, credited him for supporting a civilian review board as mayor and for a sharp drop in police shootings that occurred during that time. Jealous said O’Malley’s “mass incarceration” police strategy is “a separate issue” than police brutality, and “a conversation for a different day.”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/as-mayor-of-baltimore-omalleys-policing-strategy-sowed-mistrust/2015/04/25/af81178a-ea9d-11e4-9767-6276fc9b0ada_story.html

O'Malley also achieved on of the ACLU's highest goals, establishing a ban on the death penalty in Maryland.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
9. I know what the Maryland ACLU
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 05:57 PM
Jun 2015

said about o'malley and it was not until FOUR years later they admitted any wrongdoing. Nah, can't be trusted with my rights. Had enough of these types since Reagan. He gets a big 0. That's ZERO, not ohhhh.

FSogol

(45,504 posts)
6. Also, O'Malley is the only person running that has done something about guns.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:54 PM
Jun 2015
Governor O’Malley made broad, common-sense reforms to reduce gun violence, including implementing a handgun qualification license requiring fingerprint background checks, an assault weapons ban, and a magazine capacity limit.


These aren't proposals, they were passed and become law.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. right
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 05:52 PM
Jun 2015

he's still not to be trusted with my rights as POTUS, as far as I'm concerned. And precisely because of his heavy handed treatment of POC in his time as mayor. You can't get around that. Period.

FSogol

(45,504 posts)
10. C'est la vie
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:06 PM
Jun 2015

O'Malley was reelected Mayor of Baltimore and to 2 terms of Governor by ever increasing percentages. He enjoyed the support of large numbers of Baltimore's African American community.

In addition to the gun policies he enacted, he also ended the death penalty, decriminalized small amounts of marijuana, doubled addiction support which lowered overdoses by 30%. He closed Maryland's most abusive prison and expanded voter rights. He approved a process for automatically expunging criminal records where arrests did not lead to charges. While Governor, Maryland drove violent crime down to 30-year lows, incarceration to 20-year lows, and recidivism down by nearly 15%. It is illegal to ask if you have a prison record for State employment thanks to O'Malley.

IMO, when you add what I mentioned earlier that he

took strong steps to police the police – increasing minority hiring, improving accountability, and fully staffing a civilian review board. Under his leadership, the city reduced police shootings to their lowest level in a decade.


you don't really get the picture of a untrustworthy politician with a heavy handed approach to POC. Have a good day.

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