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Why don't we have music today for all the wars in the middle east, like we did for Vietnam? In those days everyone was singing antiwar songs. I don't know if there are any for Iraq or other wars that are more current.
These songs are a national treasure. Please add to these if you have a favorite I didn't post here. It's time for us to use the power of music again, to voice our displeasure with the constant wars and killing.
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lamp_shade
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Journeyman
(15,031 posts)Richard Thompson - Dad's Gonna Kill Me (2007)
Out in the desert there's a soldier lying dead
Vultures pecking the eyes out of his head
Another day that could have been me there instead
Nobody loves me here
Nobody loves me here
Dad's gonna kill me
Dad's gonna kill me
You hit the booby trap and you're in pieces
With every bullet your risk increases
Old Ali Baba, he's a different species
Nobody loves me here
Nobody loves me here
Dad's gonna kill me
Dad's gonna kill me
I'm dead meat in my HumV Frankenstein
I hit the road block, god knows I never hit the mine
The dice rolled and I got lucky this time
Dad's gonna kill me
Dad's gonna kill me
I've got a wife, a kid, another on the way
I might get home if I can live through today
Before I came out here I never used to pray
Nobody loves me here
Nobody loves me here
Dad's gonna kill me
Dad's in a bad mood, dad's got the blues
It's someone else's mess that I didn't choose
At least we're winning on the Fox evening news
Nobody loves me here
Dad's gonna kill me
Dad's gonna kill me
Dawn patrol went out and didn't come back
Hug the wire and pray like I told you, mac
Or they'll be shoveling bits of you into a sack
Dad's gonna kill me.
And who's that stranger walking in my dreams
And whose that stranger cast a shadow 'cross my heart
And who's that stranger, I dare speak his name
Must be old death a-walking
Must be old death a-walking
Dad's gonna kill me
7 muzzle monkeys standing in a row
Standing waiting for the sandbox to blow
Sitting targets in the wild west show
Nobody loves me here
Dad's gonna kill me
Another angel got his wings this week
Charbroiled with his own Willie Pete
Nobody's dying if you speak double-speak
Dad's gonna kill me
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)
Neil Young hasn't quit writing protest songs.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)it are those who were alive then, those they were written for.
Not that others won't understand or enjoy or even get something from them. But that was an expression of a generation, and it was in their words. And one should be singing the songs of the IWW and the 60's - there is wisdom there.
But understand - this is a new generation, and it has to be in THEIR own words and rhythms, else it won't work like you think.
Besides, our greatest adversaries today are bank$ter/donors and their political lapdogs. The better songs for a nation in servitude might be the spirituals of those who were in slavery.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)But I do think music has a place in expressing our generational angst. I just don't hear it any more.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 15, 2015, 11:36 AM - Edit history (1)
Does anyone have some good tunes to share?
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)It's, somehow, not as uplifting.
Plus we wanted to stop the war. This country can't seem to get enough of it.
Journeyman
(15,031 posts)Boccaccio, Calderón, Lord Bacon, Shakespeare and Milton
had never lived we would experience worse wars, usury,
more oppressive fraud, malfeasance and servitude.
I doubt it. I think they functioned as entertainers
who taught nothing. I submit the continuation of
everything they abhorred substantiates my argument.
Evan S. Connell, Points for a Compass Rose (1971)
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)but you can't make people listen and learn if they don't want to. It's too easy to ignore what is going on around you and just live in your own little bubble. Too many people do this. I did this when I was young and I really regret it now.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)I'm a fan of everything Charles Dickens wrote...but, did his works mean he was just an Entertainer or did they resonate somewhere in consciences of those who read him and lead to people waking up to work towards reform...particularly getting rid of the "Debtor's Prisons" and calling attention to the plight of the working people living in poverty and screwed by the same Investment Bankers and Oligarchs of that time?
How do we know what makes a difference and what is just entertainment?
These days it would seem that most of our Media: Books, TV, etc. do seem to be for Entertainment Only...Doing Little or Nothing to either stimulate Reform of our System or even Engage the Readers/Viewers in Dialogue with their fellow people out in their everyday lifestyle. But, then we are a different civilization and open to much more calculated and overwhelming single Media Influence that has infested Print, Audio, Broadcast and Video information. We all hear and watch the same news. Maybe that just leads us to feel "everything is okay" if Faux, CNN and MSNBC and the Nightly Local is all promoting the same story with just a tweak here and there?
But, then, I'm a Chomsky/Hedges/Sanders, etc. Fan...so, my opinion may be open to criticism of bias.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Need more Jonathan Kozol. Less Arne Duncan.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)
jalan48
(13,865 posts)When Bush started the Iraq War, Clear Channel (which owns hundreds of radio stations), sent out a notice to its stations that certain songs could not be played (like Fortunate Son). Back in the late 60's there were many independent FM stations that played protest songs. Ironically, they were called 'underground' radio stations.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Kids were drafted into the Vietnam war then. Now it's volunteer.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)Almost every person in the country knew someone who was in Vietnam, so we all had a stake in ending the war. Also, everyone knew that their sons or friends or other male relatives had a good chance go going to war. It was a big reason for the dissent to the war.
But I didn't think about the media ownership these days, and I bet that has a lot to do with it. If someone were to write anti-war songs today, they would get no air play. So no one is doing them.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Media consolidation. Primarily, at least.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)
Paladin
(28,257 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)Paladin
(28,257 posts)mahannah
(893 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Great song. Another one I'd not heard before.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)1. Prior to the late 1940s, if you had a choice between listening to someone doing a live performance on harmonica, or listening to a record, you went with the live performance for it was that much better. This was true even if the music was being broadcast, the problem was NOT the speakers but the actual recording for later use.
Listen to the sound in the original KING KING movie, it is NOT that good. By 1939 and "Gone with the Wind" sound had improved, but still live was still better. It was during WWII than tape recording reached the level of live performances and that was German Propaganda radio broadcasts.
In 1947, that high quality recording became available to US buyers. Thus the 33 rpm record players came out that year (the 45 came out a little bit later). Thus recording technology was ready for the Rock and Roll era, where for the first time, recorded music was considered better then a live performance.
Now, a lot of young blood took to the airwaves and the new technology, but a lot of old timers remained who having grown up during the time period of live being better, continued to do live performances, AND older groups, while embracing the new technology, retained a lot of old songs.
2. In 1947 the Transistor was invented. No one made a big thing of it at the time, but within ten years you had cars with working radios in them (something rare in the late 1940s) and in the late 1950s the introduction of the transitor Radio, thus for the first time you did not have to listen to off key live singing by your friends, you could get a very good broadcast of popular songs.
I state the above to show the technology change between 1945 and 1970. I had an older sister with a transistor Radio, but I did not have one, They were cheap, but more expensive then the money most children had, so we relied on "Older technology" i.e. we sang songs we kinda knew.
Prior to Rock and Roll, the most popular type of song in the US was Folk Songs. Anyone could sing them and sounded decent. These would be song in homes, parties, bars, and other places where people would get together. People who knew these songs would sing them and change them for new circumstances. For example when I walked to school in the 1960s we grade school students sang a variation of the Battle Hymn of the Republic:
Glory, Glory, Hallelujah
Teacher hit me with a ruler
I hit her back with a rotten tangerine
we kids are marching on.
This is typical of people PRIOR to getting their music from radios. Variations of old favorites, songs written in the time prior to radios. These old songs were written for any idiot could sing, even if he or she could not keep time or key.
By the 1970s, everyone was getting their music from radios, TV, record players etc. Older songs started to die out, they were old fashioned and everyone wanted to having the latest song. Song writers thus had to write songs for people to record, not for people to sing. Old ballads, while popular till the 1960s, started to die out. Old Folks song followed the same route. Baez and others kept these song alive, but you no longer had people singing local variations of older songs, making new songs while doing so.
This was advanced by record companies, starting in the 1970s, refusing to record or sell any song that they did not think will make a lot of money (i.e. do not turn off any segment of the population, thus Disco became popular in the mid 1970s, it offended no one except people with any taste in music).
Look at the songs you mention, these all started out with by small groups Buffalo Springfield had NOT signed with anyone when they did "Stop, children, what's that sound?". IT was released as a single, then added to an album.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_What_It%27s_Worth_(Buffalo_Springfield_song)
"Fortunate Son" is another "Folk Rock"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortunate_Son
Eve of Destruction was another "Folk Rock" sang by an up and coming singer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_McGuire
As rock turn "Harder" and away from its Folk Roots, it tended to get away from issues. This was driven not only by the concentration of who people where listening to (i.e. people no longer singing their own songs, instead listening to songs on the radio etc) but also a policy of the people who controlled what was being recorded, i.e. the concentration of recording power to just a few producers, not the many producers of the 1960s. Together these two trends tended to minimize issue songs, which tended to be folk song derivatives.
Thus today, Anti-War songs are being written and sang, but no where near what such songs would have been written and song in the 1960s and before. The inability to hear such songs and to see such songs spread is a product of technology and concentration of that technology into very few hands, hands that are more concerned about the bottom line then any messages.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)
happyslug
(14,779 posts)What I wrote, needs to be rewritten but I do not have time to do so, but let me point out that the New Technology of the 1950s came into full use by the 1960s, but the technology was NOT under the control of anyone. That was NOT true by the mid 1970s, when the smaller music labels started to be bought out by the larger labels and you start to see a concentration of music outlets to three or four record producers
The New Technology, lead by the Transistor, opened up recordings being the main way people heard music, prior to the 1950s most people heard music live, it may be in schools, bars, parties Churches, etc, but it was heard, often sang by the people listening to the music.
In any business, you have three stages in what is called the "Business life Cycle", a "boom" based on new technology being introduced and the best way to expand sales is to broaden the market so a lot of small producers enter the market and you have maximum amount of diversity.
The next nature of a business life cycle is the Mature Market. In a mature market, expansion of any one business is based on taking business from an existing rival NOT expanding the market. This leads to concentration of 3 to 8 main producers, and a decline in diversity for diversity turns off some buyers, and you expand your market in a mature market by taking such buyers from your rivals.
The last step in the business life cycle is the declining market. This has the least diversity for people are abandoning the market for something else and anyone in the market clearly do not want to turn anyone away. You see producers often reduced to one producer, who tends to milk the product till its dies out on its own.
Broadcast TV is an example of the above. In the 1950s you saw all types of new shows, variety, news, drama, etc. Perry Mason was of this time period, as was the Twilight Zone and Alfred Hitchcock presents. Variety shows were popular for the had the ability to do things other shows could not do. Maximum diversity.
Come Color Television in the 1960s, Television entered a mature phase. While Color Television were rare in 1960s, they were common by 1970. From a broadcast point of view this switch had little affect. For example Bonanza, was released in 1959 as a COLOR shows opposite Perry Mason, which was Black and White. Three months later Bonanza moved to another time slot for it was losing out to Perry Mason big time. The reason was that from most people viewing the shows, there was no real difference between Black and White and Color Programs, the key was the subject and Perry Mason tended to have better writers and plots.
Now, Perry Mason closed down in 1964, only one episode was ever made in Color and if you looked at the film, it was clear the whole format had to be changed do to how the sets filmed in Color and it was nine years old and done (If you ever watch the Perry Mason Series, you will watch a change. The early plots, tended to show Perry Mason understanding how police operate and showing how those tactics worked to convict innocent people. As the show enters into the 1960s, police tactics to entrap people disappear from the program and you see a clear shift to being almost pro-police as oppose to the earlier episodes which had the Police almost as the bad guys. This reflected the shift from expanding the overall viewer's market by getting people who have been the victim of such police tactics, to NOT turning people off for they did not want to accept that police do a lot of misconduct, i.e. the program had survived into the time period where market share was more important then the overall market).
Bonanza had become the #1 show in Television by 1964, it was popular with advertisers for it was in color (and thus they could show they color Commercial on it). In the mid 1960s US Television converted to Color, but this was more a technical fix then any real change from a marketing point of view. Most people who had televisions had televisions by the early 1960s, additional Televisions after that date where purchased to replace older sets OR to put a set some place else who people could watch television in another room instead of the living room. i.e. From a BROADCASTING point of view, the market had matured, you were no longer encouraging people to buy they first television set to see your show, the only way to expand your market was to take it from other broadcasters. Broadcaster also found out, like any other mature industry, people tended to stay with what they had UNLESS turned off from that producer. Thus you wanted programs people wanted to see, but did not want programs that turned people off. Thus if a sizable part of the population disliked your show, you did not broadcast it. When FOX entered the cable market in the 1990s, Fox went back to the 1950s and selected shows that people will switch to cable to watch. Thus you had "Married with Children" and "In Living Color". Two programs broadcast television would NOT have shown in the 1960s till today. On the other hand, the type of "on the edge shows" that broadcasters would have put on in the 1950s.
Starting in the 1980s, Broadcast Television went into decline. Cable was slowly entering show production and taking viewers from the traditional Broadcasters. Do to US Anti-Trust Laws, you did not see a concentration of broadcasters into one company as happens in most other industries in decline, but you did see lack of anything that MAY turn audiences off. Yes, the Broadcasters claim to be on the edge, but they were careful not to put anything on the air that would turn people off (Fox was the big exception starting in the 1990s, but after about 2005 Fox followed suit, keeping programs like "The Simpsons" on, that had been cutting edge when started in the 1990s, but has long since become almost non offensive (The Simpsons have long lost they edge).
Now, that was Television, Music has followed a similar pattern. In the 1950s and 1960s it was expanding, it was more important to expand the overall market then one's share in the market. Thus anything that increased sales was looked upon as "Good". Come the 1970s, the Music market, like the Television Broadcasting market, was clearly filled. The only way to expand one's sales was to get music buyers from your competitors, thus you had massive buyouts and a concentration of producers along with a tendency to music that did not turn off any buyers (The division of music into "Rock and Roll" and "Country" was part of this shift. Prior to the 1970s, it was common to see someone sing both Country and Rock songs (Elvis Presley did this), but as number of record producers decline, the remaining producers had their singers concentrate in one music type or the other. Thus you never see a Country Singer sing a Rock song, or a Rock Singer sing a Country Song today (The Rolling Stones did so in the 1960s, but that is the Rolling Stones). My point is the division is a sign of a mature music market. Record producers do not want their music buyers offended if one of their singers sing the wrong type of song. Thus the division between Rock and Country. Worse, more and more Country stars are adopting the look and acts of rock stars, and their music has become more "Rock" in character but not so much that country music buyers would call it rock not country (and to a more limited degree this can be seen in Rock Music). All this are signed that music is a mature market today, and given the use of MP3 players, both form of music are in decline, almost to a dying industry part of music being sold life cycle (notice I said MUSIC BEING SOLD, not Music, from a business point of view it is music being sold that is important NOT the music itself).
Thus the 1960s was a time period when Commercial Music was in a boom part of the Music being sold business life cycle. We are now clearly in the Mature part of the Music Being Sold Life Cycle (and maybe even the dying part of the life cycle).
Business life cycle can be seen in other industries. The Automotive Industry had many producers till the 1930s, as the industry matured, you started to see the various producers disappearing. This started in the 1930s, and accelerated the 1950s and 1960s (Stdenbecker survived till 1964, but only after merging with Packard in the mid 1950s. Kaiser purchased Willys in the 1950s (And then decided to produce nothing but Trucks and Jeeps) till merger with American Motors in 1970. American Motors itself was the product of the merger of Nash and Hudson in 1954). Due to Anti-trust concerns, General Motors sold engines to AMC at a lower prices then it sold to its own divisions in the 1960s through the 1990s, so to keep AMC in business a prevent the proposed breakup of GM under Anti-Trust laws that had massive support in the 1960s. Thus by 1970 you had de facto Three Auto Makers in the US, GM, Ford and Chrysler (with AMC a poor "forth" producer). The Japanese then entered the US Market, for they had small cars and the big three had ignored that market as unprofitable. This is typical of mature markets, the big three did not want to turn anyone away, and their most profitable cars were their large cars, and they were more then willing to leave the Japanese have the small car market for they saw it as unprofitable (The big three made some effort into the market, but it was mostly something with little thought except how to keep the price low, for that market is the most cost sensitive new car market and thus way today the Japanese are slowly abandoning that segment for the same reason the big three never really entered it, to low a profit margin). Now, like FOX TV in the 1990s, the Japanese entered the US Auto Market in the 1960s and 1970s with small cars. These took off with the gas crisis of of 1973. Better quality control expanded Japanese market share in the 1970s, but in the 1980s the switch to SUVs catch the Japanese Napping, i.e. the Japanese share of the Automobile segment in the 1980s, but declined in the "Auto and Light Trucks" segment, due to being permitted to sell cars in the US but not "Trucks" (See the Chicken tax for details):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
Thus the Big Three dominate the Auto market in the US. Japanese auto makers have built factories in the US to assemble their SUVs but like the US Big Three, the Japanese Auto Makers are in a mature market, both in Japan and the US. i.e. they expand they market share by taking it from someone else, not by expanding the over all market. While there have been a slight increase in public transit use since 2001 and a slight increase in at home work, neither has had much affect on the auto market, people are still buying cars as their main means of transportation.
Computers are another area where you see this life cycle in operation. Main Frame Computers boomed in the post war era, peaking in the 1960s, then as home computers kicked in, in the 1980s, you see less and less main frame computers being sold and the makers reduced to fewer and fewer makers as main frame computers entered into it decline period.
Home computers started in the 1970s, but really did not take off till the 1990s. You had a boom, but by the late 1990s the market had matured. What you could do with a home computer had reached a peaked. People used it for Word Processing, Data base and Computer games. You have had improvements since the 1990s in all three things, but the people who want them today, had versions of them in the late 1990s. Thus Home Computers entered the Mature Market at that time period.
The Net, as a market SEPARATE from the Home Computer itself, started in the 1960s, but really did not take off till the late 1990s. It is still in the boom part of its business life cycle. This is where most computer activity is today, not word processing, data base or even computer games (All three has expanded since the 1990s, but no where near what the Net has done). There are indications that the Net is about to enter its mature phase, thus you see increase efforts by people for the government to "Control" the net so to protect its larger providers. There has been massive resistence to that control, which is a sign the Net has NOT entered its Mature Life cycle. Time will tell as to the net. I bring the Net up only to show that it is a different life cycle then home computers (Which can be viewed as being in decline, being replaced by laptops and smart phones but the overlap between the three is more then a lot of people want to admit).
Just some comments of Product Life Cycle and how it has affect the music Industry and other industries. Protest songs are the type of song, that help a booming industry expand its market, but once that market has matured, protest songs are a way to turn buyers off your product and thus avoided if possible. Like Automobiles makers, in a mature market you do not want to turn anyone off your product, so you produce something that appears to be safe. You avoid anything that MAY turn buyers away from your product. Thus protest songs were popular in the 1960s, but almost unheard today for music producers do not want to be known as the producers of such songs for some people will object to them producing such songs.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I go back to this thread from two years ago. Old songs, newer songs, songs that I had never heard before. It takes me quite a while to download it since it is so full of videos.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023532493
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I'll need to go through that.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)I thought it interesting they would pick this out for their Play in the "Break Segment," on report on Greek Government now Undergoing More and Harsher Austerity Program. So...there are still some Oldie Protest Songs in circulation whether War or Economic Conditions.
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The Stylistics
People Make The World Go Round lyrics
Trashmen didn't get my trash today
Oh, why? Because they want more pay
Buses on strike want a raise in fare
So they can help pollute the air
But that's what makes the world go 'round
The up and down, the carousel
Changing people, they'll go around
Go underground, young man
People make the world go 'round
Wall Street losin' dough on ev'ry share
They're blaming it on longer hair
Big men smokin' in their easy chairs
On a fat cigar without a care
But that's what makes the world go 'round
The up and down, the carousel
Changing people, they'll go around
Go underground, young man
People make the world go 'round
But that's what makes the world go 'round
The up and down, the carousel
Changing people, they'll go around
Go underground, young man
People make the world go 'round
People make the world go 'round
People make the world go 'round
People make the world go 'round
Fade
People make the world go 'round
http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/t/the_stylistics/people_make_the_world_go_round.html
Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)Unknown Beatle
(2,672 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Another great song.
1monster
(11,012 posts)
zeemike
(18,998 posts)Just reading the lyrics says it all.
Ain't it foggy outside?
All the planes have been grounded
Ain't the fire inside?
Let's all go stand around it
Funny, I've been there and you've been here
And we ain't had no time to drink that beer
'Cause I understand you've been running from the man
That goes by the name of the Sandman
He flies the sky like an eagle in the eye
Of a hurricane that's abandoned
Ain't the years gone by fast?
I suppose you have missed them
Oh, I almost forgot to ask
Did you hear of my enlistment?
Funny, I've been there and you've been here
And we ain't had no time to drink that beer
'Cause I understand you've been running from the man
That goes by the name of the Sandman
He flies the sky like an eagle in the eye
Of a hurricane that's abandoned
Read more: America - Sandman Lyrics | MetroLyrics
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I never knew all the lyrics and didn't realize this was a war protest song. Another one of my favorites.
Nitram
(22,801 posts)...but based on the SF novel "Logan's run". (not the crappy movie)
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But of course Sandman predates Logan's Run...it is the myth of the Sandman sprinkling sand into your eyes to put you to sleep.
I never read the book but liked the movie.
Nitram
(22,801 posts)When you've lived to the maximum age allowed due to population control.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And in this case I think that is what is ment..."He flies the sky like and eagle in the eye of a hurricane that's abandoned" perhaps a reference to the bombing of North Viet Nam...and in that time "running from the man" could mean draft dodgers that ran to Canada to avoid the draft.
But that is the beauty of poetry, it allows the reader to put their own meanings and imagery in it.
Nitram
(22,801 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)I was once told that everyone knew someone who fought.
https://m.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I'd move heaven and earth to go to Woodstock!
niyad
(113,306 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)That's why I said include your favorites. I'd never heard this one before either.
niyad
(113,306 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Your friend is a great song writer. 
niyad
(113,306 posts)
rwsanders
(2,603 posts)Lady in Black
Come Away Melinda
turbinetree
(24,701 posts)Saw them with Manfred Mann, it was and still is the absolutely the best show I have ever seen.
Manfred played the moog synthesizer and during one song----------Nightingale and Bombers, then went into his Give Me the Good Earth songs and every instrument on stage he took over and began playing the notes off the moog it was amazing to see each instrument and the beat being displayed on a screen, while he was the only one on stage with his head phones on--------amazing.
And Uriah Heep was the back up band and they played every song off of there Wizard's and Demon, Uriah Heep, Salisbury, Look at your Self albums.
Ken Hensly was standing out front of a speaker and every time Thain hit the back beat Hensley hair would move-------amazing
rwsanders
(2,603 posts)turbinetree
(24,701 posts)And what was really cool or outasight ( showing my age) was watching Jefferson Airplane singing there Volunteer at another show----------------lived in California and we had every band imaginable coming into the state
enjoy
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Despite that, there's been some good stuff.
http://www.protest-records.com/mp3/index.html
Sample:
http://www.sonicyouth.com/prmp3/War.mp3
Jonatha Brooke - War
Every morning I get up and I watch the war, watch the war
And every morning it upstages all my favorite shows
Donahue, Hogan's Heroes
It's the American way, the new world order
We hold these truths to be self-evident
In the American day, you must give and I shall take
And I will tell you what is moral and what's just
Because I want
Because I will
Because I can
So will I kill
Every morning I get up and I raise the flag
Salute the monument of those who gave their lives
And I guess war's okay, it's just a little inconvenient
But it's better than a video-game, it's better than the movies
'Cause it's the American way, a new world order
We hold these truths to be self-evident
In the American day, you must give and I shall take
And I will tell you what is moral and what's just
Because I want
Because I will
Because I can
So will I kill
Every morning I get up and I watch the war
Watch the war, watch the war
And every morning it upstages everything I know
'Cause it's the American way, the new world order
We hold these truths to be self-evident
In the American day, you must give and I shall take
I will tell you what is moral and what's just
Because I want
Because I will
Because I can
So will I
Because I want
Because I will
Because I can
So will I
(Oh, say can you see)
Because I can
So will I kill
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I'm not going to be able to watch or respond to this thread any more. My hard drive has been threatening to crash for weeks now, and it just did. I was able to restart and bring it back, but I'm going to have to leave videos alone until I get this fixed.
Keep it going for each other though. 
NBachers
(17,110 posts)
WhoIsNumberNone
(7,875 posts)IHateTheGOP
(1,059 posts)I mean, just listen to the songs you posted. TALENT.
IHateTheGOP
(1,059 posts)
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)If you smile at me, I will understand
'Cause that is something everybody everywhere does
In the same language
I can see by your coat, my friend
You're from the other side
There's just one thing I got to know
Can you tell me please, who won the war ?
Say, can I have some of your purple berries?
Yes, I've been eating them for six or seven weeks now
Haven't got sick once
Probably keep us both alive
Wooden ships on the water, very free and easy
Easy, you know the way it's supposed to be
Silver people on the shoreline, let us be
Talkin' 'bout very free and easy
Horror grips us as we watch you die
All we can do is echo your anguished cries
Stare as all human feelings die
We are leaving, you don't need us
Go, take your sister then, by the hand
Lead her away from this foreign land
Far away, where we might laugh again
We are leaving, you don't need us
And it's a fair wind blowin' warm
Out of the south over my shoulder
Guess I'll set a course and go
SONGWRITERS
CROSBY, DAVID / STILLS, STEPHEN / KANTNER, PAUL
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)After Norman Greenbaum, they threw away the mold.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)turbinetree
(24,701 posts)Time Has Come Today
Crosby Stills Nash and Young..................Ohio
"Ten Years After.......................I Love to Change the World"
Honk -------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)They simply aren't popular because those who fight and die are volunteers.
Bring back the draft, and all wars will be unpopular and the protest songs will return to the front of our consciousness.
thecrow
(5,519 posts)Has David Rovics been so soon forgotten? He was popular during the Cindy Sheehan occupation of Crawford. Some really good songs. Look him up!
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)And very few people today do NOT want to be commercially successful. In the 60's/70's there was at least alternate models of how to spend one's life... outside of the $$$$ machine. ( Or as we might say now.... "off the grid".)
Also the counterculture was big enough to $$$ support people like Dylan, Phil Ochs, Judy Collins, Tom Paxton.... and many ,many others who wrote and sang eloquently against the machine.
swilton
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pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Not as good as his other anthems, but he did 'Deja Vu (All Over Again)'. It was the title song of his 2004 album.
Lyrics:
Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Did you try to read the writing on the wall
Did that voice inside you say I've heard it all before
It's like deja vu all over again
Day by day I hear the voices rising
Started with a whisper like it did before
Day by day we count the dead and dying
Ship those bodies home while the networks all keep score
Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Could you're eyes belive the writing on the wall
Did that voice inside you say I've heard it all before
It's like deja vu all over again
One by one I see the old ghosts rising
Stumblin' 'cross Big Muddy
Where the light gets dim
Day after day another Mamma's crying
She's lost her precious child
To a war that has no end
Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Did you stop to read the writing at the wall
Did that voice inside you say
I've seen this all before
It's like deja vu all over again
It's like deja vu all over again