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whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 03:38 PM Jul 2015

MSNBC Panel Mocks Clinton Campaign For Silencing Her Young Supporters



"Now why in the world would the campaign tell their own supporters who came out, young people, college kids, why in the world would you do that? This should raise some warning flags that for Hillary Clinton that is trying to control their supporters." said Susan Page, USA Today.

This was originally posted in LBN

1. it was late breaking
2. it is news that a Democratic Party candidate would instruct supporters to not talk to the press

Some people feel that having the Clinton Campaign telling young supporters to not talk to the press isn't news. I think this is news, but I'm older and not as comfortable with the authoritarian direction that our political system is traveling.

Secondly, I think it is important for people deciding about a candidate's disposition and governing style to have access to information when making choices. We've seen the rope lines, evasive non-answers, and hedging. Very telling of an autocratic corporate style.

I can't believe people think these are the qualities that make a great American political leader. We have the most difficult challenges in the years ahead and a candidate who is incapable of dealing with the issues in a straightforward manner for fear she may make Wall Street bankers a bit uncomfortable with the inconvenient truths.

On edit: I forgot this part from the original post at LBN:

From the you tube comments:

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MSNBC Panel Mocks Clinton Campaign For Silencing Her Young Supporters (Original Post) whereisjustice Jul 2015 OP
CLINTON: "I Won't Let Republicans Take Us Backwards" is the MSNBC chyron. Sounds good to me. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #1
Huuummm, posted by a "Someone other than Hillary". Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #2
Yep, I called MSNBC, sent them the script, coached the panel, directed the segment, posted whereisjustice Jul 2015 #17
Where is the proof other than a panel talking on MSNBC? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #18
Thank you for reposting this late breaking news. I hadn't seen it before 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #3
The Dali Llama, chosen at... well, ever since she was a Director at Walmart whereisjustice Jul 2015 #5
Oh yes, the Wakmart era..... wolfie001 Jul 2015 #9
Understandable, if they are hired. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #4
That's what I got from it. 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #6
God, don't tell me Hillary is running an atroturf campaign. I considered that these might have been whereisjustice Jul 2015 #11
Don't you remember when Hillary did just that? The campaign planted young voters to ask her En Garde Jul 2015 #15
The campaign doesn't want anyone breaking away from the narrative... SoapBox Jul 2015 #7
You're "older"?Yet you don't know the utter savagery with which Hillary has been treated by the MSM? Hekate Jul 2015 #8
When I want an example of out of control media savagery, I'll argue Obama has had it MUCH worse and whereisjustice Jul 2015 #10
I too am older, and agree with all you say. Paka Jul 2015 #14
They did not report the facts. Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #12
Steve Kornacki, Susan Page and Jonathan Capehart are not right wing pundits. En Garde Jul 2015 #16
Susan Page made her career chasing down Bill C's dick stories. Mika Jul 2015 #20
Perhaps one of the bobble heads answered this the best... MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #13
Can a MSNBC intern answer questions about MSNBC? vinny9698 Jul 2015 #19

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. CLINTON: "I Won't Let Republicans Take Us Backwards" is the MSNBC chyron. Sounds good to me.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jul 2015

Not sure what this one MSNBC person's "critique" is of Clinton to draw such a case of the vapors?

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
17. Yep, I called MSNBC, sent them the script, coached the panel, directed the segment, posted
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jul 2015

the youtube, reported it here and paid everyone off with funds from my foundation.

I think it turned out looking very natural, don't you?

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
3. Thank you for reposting this late breaking news. I hadn't seen it before
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 03:54 PM
Jul 2015

What's doubly ironic is that the Hillary supporters who were dissing your LBN post,
were doing the same thing that the MSNBC panel was referring to, being hyper-
controlling & fixated on her narrow narrative of being the "inevitable" one.

wolfie001

(2,263 posts)
9. Oh yes, the Wakmart era.....
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jul 2015

.......Hillary, quote: "I'm always proud of Wal-Mart and what we do and the way we do it better than anybody else." Yes, yes, I wonder how many DUers were forced to worked in that dystopia when the economy went in the crapper in 2008.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. Understandable, if they are hired.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 04:02 PM
Jul 2015

After all, if you are running an AstroTurf campaign behind a facade of grassroots, you don't want the hired help blabbing to the press.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
6. That's what I got from it.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 05:15 PM
Jul 2015

Oh my, what a difference from another candidate, who's name I
will not mention, who spends less on hiring people than most any
other candidate, both in terms of real dollars, an as a percentage
of their total budget.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
11. God, don't tell me Hillary is running an atroturf campaign. I considered that these might have been
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 07:06 PM
Jul 2015

paid supporters but can't believe her campaign is that desperate to find young people willing to rally around her.

Then again, times are hard and education costs are through the roof, so maybe the kids just need the cash.

Clinton doesn't exactly offer much in the way of change or opportunity to America's young people.

If they are paid supporters, I guess they can collect their pay and go see Bernie and not have to worry about being micromanaged by a staged production.

 

En Garde

(94 posts)
15. Don't you remember when Hillary did just that? The campaign planted young voters to ask her
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 03:42 AM
Jul 2015

... canned questions. The Clintons are shameless.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
7. The campaign doesn't want anyone breaking away from the narrative...
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 05:21 PM
Jul 2015

What narrative?

She's roped off or has "invitational" conversations only.

Not much narrative going on.

Hekate

(90,749 posts)
8. You're "older"?Yet you don't know the utter savagery with which Hillary has been treated by the MSM?
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 06:28 PM
Jul 2015

That "raises some questions" about your powers of observation.

If I were she I would not trust the MSM as far as I could throw them, and I would tell anyone who worked for me to parse every word when speaking to the media.

That's not "authoritarian," that's just learned caution.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
10. When I want an example of out of control media savagery, I'll argue Obama has had it MUCH worse and
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jul 2015

handled it MUCH better. Between two imperfect choices I'll take Obama's humility over Clinton's arrogance.

It is because I am older I've seen the evolution of the Clinton corporate authoritarian style to politics.

I didn't like it then, I don't like it now. It's the arrogance that gave us NAFTA and Wall Street crime which nearly destroyed the last vestiges of the middle class in America.

Clinton owes much of her success to MSM and her bottomless pit of Wall Street money.

And today you can't spit across the room without hitting a bubbleheaded talk show host who calls her "the Democratic Party nominee".

So, don't lecture me about MSM savagery. Clinton is a product of a MSM love fest.

Without the MSM Clinton would have nothing, zero name recognition. And the Democratic Party would have united behind a candidate that actually gives a shit that American middle class is being sold off to Wall Street and Asia for pennies on the dollar by the likes of the Clintons.

The only question about my power of observation is how it became so much sharper than when I was younger. I wish I knew then, what I know now.

On edit - and by the way, she hates MSM so much she's about to dump millions of dollars on campaign ads that run on - can you guess?

That's right, MSM.

Shocking.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
14. I too am older, and agree with all you say.
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 03:40 AM
Jul 2015

There is a good reason why older has long been equated with wiser.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
12. They did not report the facts.
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jul 2015

I did not see the "story." I just saw RW pundits attacking Clinton. I do not believe anything that comes out of the mouths of these people.

I will wait to see what actually happened.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
20. Susan Page made her career chasing down Bill C's dick stories.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 06:34 PM
Jul 2015

Also, I think her new surgical makeover/ dental bridgework has given her a speech impediment.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
13. Perhaps one of the bobble heads answered this the best...
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jul 2015

Jersey City was known for paying people 50 bucks to hold signs AND not talk to the press. Immediately after this statement, he says, "That wasn't happening here"… Did he forget to hold up his sign?

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
19. Can a MSNBC intern answer questions about MSNBC?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jul 2015

Maybe the MSNBC intern can answer policy questions. I doubt that.

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