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Zorra

(27,670 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 08:19 AM Aug 2015

This is what the US media doesn't want you to see regarding the river in Colorado.

It's much worse than the media is covering up.



The Native American community appreciates any support that people provide for this terrible tragedy. Real lives depend upon this river for food and sustainability. It is truly horrific what has happened.

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This is what the US media doesn't want you to see regarding the river in Colorado. (Original Post) Zorra Aug 2015 OP
This is, indeed, an environmental nightmare. Old Crow Aug 2015 #1
they spelled 'Die' wrong tk2kewl Aug 2015 #2
Just horrific. And idiots were kayaking on the river after the spill? How can that mess ever Mnemosyne Aug 2015 #3
I would guess they are on the river not for pleasure, but to do analysis? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #5
I hope you are right, Fred, but seems it could be done from the banks more safely. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2015 #7
More to the point....what is with the fucking American media....worse that useless...including, Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #8
When I saw faux news the first time in 1996?, I was chilled to the bone. The media has only gotten Mnemosyne Aug 2015 #9
The American mass media is a sick puppy, sucking at the teat of CU and protective of its advertisers Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #4
It's a pity that New Mexico fought "Superfund Cleanup Site" status for decades. annabanana Aug 2015 #6
The mine is in Silverton Colorado ALBliberal Aug 2015 #10
This will take decades to clean up. blackspade Aug 2015 #11
They will never clean it all up, they never do. Dustlawyer Aug 2015 #18
This will taint our food supply. Cadnium? mercury? lead? arsenic? and much more. Yum yum yum! L0oniX Aug 2015 #12
I have to take issue with the OP headline. JayhawkSD Aug 2015 #13
Thank you for speaking out, even though it doesn't sound wonderfully progressive progree Aug 2015 #23
Thanks for the support. JayhawkSD Aug 2015 #24
Sadly it is almost or all about "humans" every time I read or hear a report. glinda Aug 2015 #14
Fucking sickening. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #15
But, but..."The solution to pollution is dilution!" dougolat Aug 2015 #16
Great slogan and post. DaGoogler21 Aug 2015 #21
Was this "mistake" done to create bad press for the EPA, thereby making it easier for valerief Aug 2015 #17
I think there is a rat involved here... 2naSalit Aug 2015 #19
Hope you guys come up with the Contacter”s name busterbrown Aug 2015 #20
Hmmm... 2naSalit Aug 2015 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #22
Depends on what part of the country you're in, we've seen all of this Warpy Aug 2015 #26

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
1. This is, indeed, an environmental nightmare.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 08:32 AM
Aug 2015

Cadmium, arsenic, and lead levels off the charts: wow. Much worse than I'd thought. Thanks for posting.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
3. Just horrific. And idiots were kayaking on the river after the spill? How can that mess ever
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:34 AM
Aug 2015

be cleaned up?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. More to the point....what is with the fucking American media....worse that useless...including,
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:49 AM
Aug 2015

if I might add non-topically, refusing to cover the huge Sanders rallies while obsessing over a canned "debate"!

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
9. When I saw faux news the first time in 1996?, I was chilled to the bone. The media has only gotten
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:54 AM
Aug 2015

worse. Propaganda has become mainstream with almost no true journalists employed anymore it seems.

It's all smoke and mirrors now, sadly...

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. The American mass media is a sick puppy, sucking at the teat of CU and protective of its advertisers
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:39 AM
Aug 2015

They are a huge part of the problem, they will never be part of the solution.

20,000 people are effected by this further example of how political corruption and cowardly lawmakers have real world consequences.

And since few white folks are being effected.....more white privilege to not bother being too concerned or give publicity.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
6. It's a pity that New Mexico fought "Superfund Cleanup Site" status for decades.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 09:44 AM
Aug 2015

Apparently they were afraid that the designation would scare off companies that might have reopened the mine.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
18. They will never clean it all up, they never do.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:43 PM
Aug 2015

Just like the Gulf oil spill, where BP used Corexit to sink the oil to the bottom to hide the extent, it will be there for thousands of years and will sterilize the Gulf sea life well before then.
The PI part of the class settlement is a joke and paid almost no one!
Hope the government does better than the private sector, but I won't hold my breath!

 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
12. This will taint our food supply. Cadnium? mercury? lead? arsenic? and much more. Yum yum yum!
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:45 AM
Aug 2015

...and for how long will this toxic water affect the food?

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
13. I have to take issue with the OP headline.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 10:46 AM
Aug 2015

There was nothing in that film clip which was not shown on CBS Evening News.

Don't get me wrong, I am no shill for CBS or any other mass media. They are liars and shills for the corporate/military/political ruling class, but in this case... Again, I saw nothing there that the mass media did not report.

progree

(10,911 posts)
23. Thank you for speaking out, even though it doesn't sound wonderfully progressive
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:38 PM
Aug 2015

I have seen plenty of coverage in the U.S. media too. And Yahoo News had 4 stories this morning on it in the top 40 or so news stories, with one of them being #4 (and I've been seeing stories for several days).

But for some reason it is considered wonderfully "progressive" to blather about something not being covered by the MSM and thank Juh-HEE-zus there is Russian TV to tell us what is REALLY going on, even though the quickest Google search on news articles will show thousands -- this one is a search on "colorado spill" with the news link selected:

https://www.google.com/search?num=50&safe=off&espv=2&biw=1179&bih=841&tbm=nws&q=colorado+spill&oq=colorado+spill&gs_l=serp.3...6403.9209.0.15450.14.13.0.0.0.0.1098.1757.0j3j1j7-1.5.0....0...1.1.64.serp..10.4.656.KQSW1ay8jbs

As for TV evening news, I've seen it there too multiple times.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
24. Thanks for the support.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:30 AM
Aug 2015

I'm not "progressive." I'm not "liberal" or "conservative" or any of the other labels. I do not view issues through the lens of any ideology. I view each issue on its own merits. What does it do? Who does it serve? What does it cost? How do we pay for it? What are the alternatives?

That is not easy. It means I have to do research. It means I have to think for myself. It means I have to apply reason and thought to the issue.

Ideology is much easier. It would allow me to let someone else tell me what to think. It would make voting really simple and easy, just look at the letter after the person's name. It would allow me to be lazy and stupid. It would relieve me of the responsibility of citizenship.

Trying to exercise the responsibility of citizenship gets me in trouble on this board, because I don't drink the koolaid. I don't "go along to get along." Thinkers are seldom popular.

dougolat

(716 posts)
16. But, but..."The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:34 AM
Aug 2015

You know, like with Fukushima.

And the BP spill.

And our flimsy whisp of atmosphere.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
17. Was this "mistake" done to create bad press for the EPA, thereby making it easier for
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 11:59 AM
Aug 2015

the human-hating GOP Congress to rid the U.S. of this agency?

Or did the land owners want to get rid of the toxins to pave the way for new development and paid the EPA to do so?

A mistake this huge is no mistake. I smell a rat.

2naSalit

(86,752 posts)
19. I think there is a rat involved here...
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 12:55 PM
Aug 2015

This was done by contractors... and who IS this contractor? And could this have been funded by a certain cabal whose name shall not be mentioned but who would like the EPA to get some really nasty PR in order to drown the agency in a bathtub?

2naSalit

(86,752 posts)
25. Hmmm...
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:27 PM
Aug 2015

Just saw your post and 'googled"... found this so far:

Missouri-based Environmental Restoration LLC was the contractor whose work caused a mine spill in Colorado that released an estimated three million gallons of toxic sludge into a major river system, according to an Environmental Protection Agency official and government documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal

---snip---

From October 2007 through this month, Environmental Restoration has been awarded $381 million in federal contracts, according to government procurement data compiled on USAspending.gov. The vast majority—more than $364 million—of that total was for work for the EPA. About 10%, or $37 million of the EPA’s awarded amount, was for contracts within the state of Colorado.

The Gold King mine wasn’t a designated Superfund cleanup site, which would have required far more funding. Rather, Environmental Restoration was trying to stop wastewater from escaping the mine at the time of the breach, government documents indicate.

The massive spill—which resulted in dramatic images of mustard-colored wastewater laced with heavy metals—highlights the market for environmental cleanup firms, a lucrative government contracting business. The company was listed by an engineering trade publication last year as one of the top 100 environmental firms in the country, with revenue estimated at close to $80 million.

---snip---

http://www.wsj.com/articles/epa-contractor-involved-in-colorado-spill-identified-as-environmental-restoration-1439414672



Just a little more at the link that indicates there was a confidentiality agreement between EPA and this contractor who has, as it appears, a high revenue base with a not so stellar success rate given the results of the disasters they tout in their portfolio.

Response to 2naSalit (Reply #19)

Warpy

(111,327 posts)
26. Depends on what part of the country you're in, we've seen all of this
Sun Aug 16, 2015, 10:43 PM
Aug 2015

posted on local news stations in NM. AZ is a red state so maybe they haven't bothered to tell anyone just how bad it's been.

The water is now safe in Durango and it's starting to clear in Farmington. Where it will cost the most to clean up (if they bother) is where the river is dammed, Lake Powell and Lake Mead. The latter is the reservoir for Las Vegas. Both are at record low levels so the EPA can't rely on much dilution.

BTW, the pictures don't do it justice, it was more of a bright yellow-orange, almost Day-Glo, from the cadmium salts.

That old mine was leaking very badly, which is why the EPA was there in the first place. Don't hold your breath waiting for the descendants of the scumbag who left the huge mess to be charged for cleaning up great grandpa's ticking time bomb.

This mine was one of the worst. It's also one of many dozens.

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