Bill O'Reilly: Murderers Are Always Atheistic Or Agnostic

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[chervilant]

1. Yeah, right, Billo the Clown.

Like anyone with a single functioning brain cell believes a word that comes out of your mouth.

[olegramps]

33. He and his fellow low life at FOX are just paid propagandists.

They are willing accomplices eager to spread the lies to their gullible audience for money. They are so delusional they actually believe they are journalists. I wonder how they look at themselves in mirror without vomiting.

[Journeyman]

2. Must be comforting, to live in such a starkly dualistic world. . .

saves you from having to think or reason, that's for sure.

[rusty quoin]

3. What about woman's health care clinic killers.

What about that Bill...what did you call him..Dr. Tiller the baby killer.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Like the perpetrators of the Spanish Inquisition?

(insert Monty Python reference here) The Crusades? 9/11?

Oh, wait. This is Bill Orally. No point in even arguing with this knucklehead.

[shenmue]

5. No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

[Major Nikon]

9. Pope Pius V

Killed and tortured thousands then made into a saint after his death. More recently the IRA murdered thousands, often even fellow Catholics they thought were collaborating with the British.

Just two examples out of many that come to mind.

Bill'O doesn't know the history of his own religion very well.

[KansDem]

30. Salem witch hunts also come to mind...

The executions at Salem were not the first of their kind in the American colonies, nor even in New England. Historian Clarence F. Jewett included a list of other people executed in New England in The Memorial History of Boston: Including Suffolk County, Massachusetts 1630–1880 (Ticknor and Company, 1881). He wrote:

The following is the list of the 12 persons who were executed for witchcraft in New England before 1692, when 24 other persons were executed at Salem, whose names are well known. It is possible that the list is not complete ; but I have included all of which I have any knowledge, and with such details as to names and dates as could be ascertained: —

1647, — "Woman of Windsor," Connecticut (name unknown)[later identified as Alice Young], at Hartford. 1648, — Margaret Jones, of Charlestown, at Boston. 1648, — Mary Johnson, at Hartford. 1650? — Henry Lake's wife, of Dorchester. 1650? — Mrs. Kendall, of Cambridge. 1651, — Mary Parsons, of Springfield, at Boston. 1651, — Goodwife Bassett, at Fairfield, Conn. 1653, — Goodwife Knap, at Hartford. 1656, — Ann Hibbins, at Boston. 1662, — Goodman Greensmith, at Hartford. 1662, — Goodwife Greensmith, at Hartford. 1688, — Goody Glover, at Boston."

Wikipedia

[Major Nikon]

31. What's more Christian than hanging innocent people in the public square?

[Enthusiast]

15. That's a pretty good point.

[WinkyDink]

27. Why must examples from half a millennium ago be trotted out?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

6. One of the worst media pigs on the planet.

And I should have thought of a better analogy. I like pigs. Media rat?

[Major Nikon]

7. What's the religious affiliation of those who have forced phone sex with a subordinate?

[John1956PA]

8. John List

From Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_List :

John Emil List (September 17, 1925 – March 21, 2008), sometimes labeled the Bogeyman of Westfield,[1] was a convicted multiple murderer and long-time fugitive. On November 9, 1971 he killed his wife, mother, and three children in their home at 431 Hillside Avenue in Westfield, New Jersey, and then disappeared. He had planned the murders so meticulously that nearly a month passed before anyone noticed that anything was amiss.

. . .

He was a devout Lutheran and a Sunday school teacher.

. . .

In a five-page letter to his pastor, found on the desk in his study, he wrote that he saw too much evil in the world, and he had killed his family to save their souls. He then cleaned the various crime scenes, carefully cut his own picture out of every family photograph in the house,[12] tuned a radio to a religious station, and departed.

. . .

[marble falls]

20. The BTK serial killer:

Another Lutheran!

Dennis Lynn Rader (born March 9, 1945) is an American serial killer who murdered ten people in Sedgwick County (in and around Wichita, Kansas), between 1974 and 1991.

He is known as the BTK killer (or the BTK strangler). "BTK" stands for "Bind, Torture, Kill", which was his infamous signature. He sent letters describing the details of the killings to police and local news outlets during the interval in which the murders took place.

After a long hiatus in the 1990s through early 2000s, Rader resumed sending letters in 2004, leading to his 2005 arrest and subsequent guilty plea. He is currently serving 10 consecutive life sentences at El Dorado Correctional Facility in Kansas.

Rader was a member of Christ Lutheran Church and had been elected president of the church council.[6][14] He was also a Cub Scout leader.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader

[floppyboo]

10. And let's not forget Jimmy Jones

908 dead in the name of religion edit 909
Okay, so he did say he was an agnostic or alternately atheistic, but anyone who can tell me this was not a religious movement - please tell why? The way Bill O frames the issue is up front confrontational (of course) and fails to allow for Jim Jone's anti religion religion. He was worshipped. He had a message. He had a prophesy. Is that not a religion? Someone correct me if I've got something wrong here. Does religion just include Christ? Enough massacres in that name to laugh Bill off the stage.

[floppyboo]

14. the church and native americans

I think the title of this says it all. If not outright murder with smallpox blankets, psychological murder in residential schools and church rape

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. Dennis Rader.

Also known as the "BTK Killer." Rader was a member of Christ Lutheran Church near Wichita and had been elected president of the church council.

And Eric Rudolph, the Olympic Park and abortion clinic bomber.

And Gary Ridgway, who killed 60 women, more murders than any serial killer in U.S. history. He would go from door to door proselytizing for a Pentecostal church.

[Lorien]

12. Over 90% of prison populations are "people of faith"

I had a family member who worked as a psychologist for a state prison system. It was a big factor in his conversion to what I would call "extreme atheism"; the worst killers seemed to have no remorse and would simply shrug and say "well, I don't think about it. I put it in God's hands."

[King_Klonopin]

13. Unless they are Muslims, of course. nt

[WinkyDink]

26. You have it exactly backwards. Either condemn both, or excuse both.

[Enthusiast]

16. Bill is wrong again. Big surprise there.

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[exboyfil]

17. Wonder what he would make of this guy

Guy mad about his relationship with his girlfriend so waits on a bike trail to murder a family. Here is a summary of his interest in religion.

Zemlock said Valencia del Toro became a student of religion. Investigators found a shrine in his home that included figurines of the Nativity of Jesus, Ganesha (a Hindu god), Baphomet (a goat-headed figure) and Buddha.

Valencia del Toro had numerous tattoos, some of which were religious. His body art included a man praying over a book with the Alpha & Omega and Lamb of God, half of a Buddha face, a hamsa, Baphomet, a decorated skull, a rose, an infinity symbol, the Grim Reaper, the chemical symbol of THC, and an image of a girl with an AK-47 assault rifle.
"According to Haylie, his fiancee, he was trying to find a religion that fit for him," Zemlock said. "He had a hard time wrapping his (head) around that blind faith concept, believing in a supreme being. He was getting frustrated."
http://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/local/2015/06/11/police-gunman-prior-suicidal-homicidal-thoughts/71064874/

[Augiedog]

18. Billo wins the stupid human award once again

[marble falls]

19. And Fox commentators always have their heads up their butts.

[Fortinbras Armstrong]

21. An historical example

In 1949, a man from Quebec, Albert Guay, wanted out of his marriage, but as a Catholic, he believed that divorce was sinful. So what did he do? He put a dynamite bomb in his wife's suitcase when she flew to visit some relatives. The 23 people on the DC-3 were killed. Apparently, divorce was sinful, but mass murder was not.

He and a couple of accomplices were executed.

[Act_of_Reparation]

22. A tired, oft-repeated trope... even around DU:

"Christians who do bad things aren't really Christians"

Bill O. isn't saying anything new, or anything a number of resident "progressives" would necessarily disagree with, were it coming from someone other than Bill O.

[WinkyDink]

24. Why not? It started with "Murderous Muslims aren't true Muslims." And that was when the crimes WERE

IN THE NAME OF ISLAM, FGS.

So if there exist Christian apologists now, TFB.

I am not absolving O'Reilly of his blatant lies.

[Act_of_Reparation]

29. It has been going on a lot longer than that.

I remember hearing this schlock from teachers when I was a good little Catholic schoolboy twenty years ago.

The root of the problem is the assumption that religion is essentially good (or that all religions are essentially the same). This necessarily implies that 1) people who do bad things aren't really religious; and 2) people who do bad things must therefore be atheists.

[WinkyDink]

23. They will say ANYTHING.

[gregcrawford]

25. O'Reilly is the belligerent loudmouthed uncle...

... everyone dreads seeing at family gatherings. He just won't shut up.

[IHateTheGOP]

28. The righties have learned how to get their meme out there, the truth is irrelevant

[Hassin Bin Sober]

32. Andrea Yates drowned her kids to save them from hell.

[zebonaut]

34. George W. Bush. Dick Cheney.

[tclambert]

35. Cheney personally knew God, was his right hand guy until he rebelled and God cast him out.

Oh, wait, that was Satan. I always get those two confused.