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The on-air murders of a TV news reporter and cameraman has thrust the issue of gun control back into the national dialogue. This is a conversation that we should be having, but politicians are still toeing the NRAs line.
Ring of Fires Farron Cousins and Sam Seder discuss this.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)It takes a family tragedy for some people to reconsider their political positions.
Sometimes even that is not enough.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)motorist in a road rage incident. Didn't change a thing. I bet it wouldn't have made a difference if his grandson killed himself finding his daddy's gun. These gunners are that sick.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)That there is no such thing as "reasonable gun control". According to him, any limitation whatsoever placed on gun ownership was just an attempt by the "gun grabbers" to restrict all gun ownership.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)the mind set of the powers that be is that there is plenty of little people but very few people worthy of running this country ...... so the need to protect them is great
zebonaut
(3,688 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)The NRA and they vote against our better interest and against the will of the people. For years Grover Norquist bullied the weak ones who signed his agreement not to pass tax bills, well, they went against Norquist and passed taxes and the sky did not fall. I think one of the things I will be looking for in candidates is a F rating from NRA, anything less means they have been bowing to the NRA.
ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Or maybe I can. I thought that maybe, maybe the horror of Sandy Hook might have
given the Congress pause, but no...
It is an OUTRAGE that we have to take this domestic terrorism sitting down-- that it's
"just one of those things" that happens in America and that's that.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)Face it. We had a "discussion," it somewhat lasted for decades -- from JFK's death to this morning -- and whatever rules and regulations, whatever concessions, were obtained in those years are the best we can hope to acquire. Nothing else of any substance is going to change.
Better to devote time and energy to defending the 1st Amendment. The only ultimate hope we have that something may one day be accomplished is if we just keep talking about it. But as I see it this afternoon, little was done in the wake of John's murder, and nothing was done for those children, so I no longer expect my generation -- or those sharing this beautiful planet with me -- to accomplish anything more of substance.
This old comic from Tom Tomorrow goes a long ways to explain it:
Or, put another way:
MiniMe
(21,717 posts)According to the NRA. It is never the time to discuss it according to them.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)the rest of us have to pay.
Maybe a shooter killing a bunch of elementary school children on live TV would make a difference, but I wouldn't count on it.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)...as well as the lesser known, but just as bad GOA (Gun Owners of America) as being their enemy.
The extremist positions of these 2 groups are just as disgusting to a vast majority of hunters as they are to everyone else. No one needs to own automatic assault weapons or handguns to hunt deer.
Furthermore, all of the hunters that I know not only support existing gun laws, but would even like additional requirements. Laws such as mandatory safety programs, stronger, more exhaustive background checks (even if that means a longer wait) closing the gun show loophole, ect.. these are just to name a few...
I realize that this thread is not about hunting. But I do feel the need to point out why Bernie Sanders is not hesitant to support strong gun control laws, and score a D- with the NRA. In rural states like mine and Bernie's, hunting is an inexpensive way to supplement meager household grocery budgets. It is not about the ridiculous machismo of NRA-supporting idiots who wander around suburban shopping centers needlessly terrifying people with their lethal boy-toys just to make some unnecessary, ill-defined point.
Reasonable hunters support strict gun control. They don't support unyielding, irresponsible extremist groups like the NRA or GOA.