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Police Fatalities Much Lower Than Under Reagan, Yet Walker Blames Obama
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4lbs
(6,865 posts)match his Saint Ronny Raygun.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)more than 250 to keep pace.
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)John Crock
(6 posts)Sure he is for more cops but wont pay them or if they wont work for free he will cut education to do it. If I said assh@le I would be insulting assh@les everywhere. This guy is truely evil.
AllyCat
(16,233 posts)let us continue to deal with his horror. Don't foist him on the entire nation.
BumRushDaShow
(129,611 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,243 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
Tarheel_Dem
(31,243 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)the White House. If they don't combat against open lies, more Americans will
believe them, and there will be more Americans who stay Republican because
of this deliberate misinformation.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)erronis
(15,371 posts)At the teats of people with too much money and too little brains.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)PatrickforO
(14,593 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,763 posts)Statistics. Such a troubling obstacle for right-wingers.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)How much will Dave and Charlie pay him to tell lies that fit their narrative?
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Scott Walker is a complete dope.
marmar
(77,094 posts)Cal33
(7,018 posts)of recognizing a sociopath.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Leith
(7,813 posts)If one has to lie to prove a point, one doesn't have a valid point.
Yet conservatives/Republicans lie about everything.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Population is up from 247 million in 1987 to 319 million today.
Another statistic would be number of shootings by fatal and non-fatal since dealing with trauma has gotten much better so you would expect some drop from that. Still if we scale Reagan's number with the population change, we would expect that number to be 744 (it is less than half that number).
This reflects a general downward trend in the U.S. murder rate.
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)You're small potatoes Scottie! Go home!
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Unfortunately, unless you turn it around on them, call them on the error and actively ridicule them for it, most listeners will just nod and accept what they heard from the lying liar. It's human nature because it takes less mental energy to accept what you hear than to make the effort to question it and seek confirmation or contradiction.
A friend of mine once told me that he had heard 90% of EKGs are wrong and he repeated it as if he totally accepted that statement. "Really makes you think, doesn't it?" he said.
I did think about it and said, "That can't possibly be true. First of all, it would make for medical catastrophes with a frequency that would be all over the news. Secondly, how could you know they're wrong? You'd have to have some other way of measuring heart performance that is far more reliable than EKGs to compare them to."
"Oh! I hadn't thought of that," he said. Because he didn't try.
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I would like to hear Democrats start relentlessly ridiculing Republicans for not putting in the work to check their supposedly factual assertions. Call into question the Republican candidates' competence, portray them as lazy, sloppy, and bad at hiring reliable staffers who are supposed to factcheck their statements. Turn their many factual errors into criticism of their ability to run a campaign. One thing politicians cannot afford is to look bad at running a campaign.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)He never lets facts get in the way of a good narrative. In this case, it's an obvious "dog whistle" to say that the black President is getting (white) cops killed. The difference now, of course, is that it's a Presidential election and a lot more people are paying attention and checking facts. We have a very compliant and right-wing media apparatus in Wisconsin and Walker has never had a real rival on the Republican side. Now he has several and he's being exposed.
The really silly thing is that he has been by all accounts the most divisive figure in the history of Wisconsin state politics, and he's calling the POTUS the "Divider in Chief."
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)...a fact which some here find difficult to accept when discussed in other contexts.
Of note, the Lt. Governor of Texas blamed the epidemic of Texas cop killings on -- of course -- Obama. That is, one (1) LEO killed by attack, return-fire this year. It's a plague, I tell you!
red dog 1
(27,872 posts)He's an idiot!
erronis
(15,371 posts)IkeRepublican
(406 posts)Whenever a Democrat is in the White House, RW's act like every law enforcement officer and official is being held hostage in their homes and the entire country is to get showered with gigatons of nuclear explosions at any second.
Cosmic Dancer
(70 posts)How did he get elected three times?
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...that's another story.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Why include only two-term presidents?
wickerwoman
(5,662 posts)mdbl
(4,976 posts)Quit looking up facts! Repuglicans don't use them.
captainarizona
(363 posts)Walker grew up when police could shoot black people without repercussions and doesn't like the fact that black lives matter now.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Should we give prisoners, angry at being caught out by a particular copper, a gun and an early release? Go get 'em, Tiger?
It certainly sounds like he's upset that the ratio has gone DOWN!!!!
Fritz Walter
(4,292 posts)He hasn't grown up.
Chronologically, he might have reached the age of majority. He is allowed to vote, consume alcohol, etc.
But cognitively, he's still a juvenile. And should be regarded as such.
Unfortunately, he is what the Cock Bros want and need to fulfill their agenda: easily manipulated to adhere to their script.
A puppet on a string.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)declared. War on Drugs = a war in America's neighborhoods.
malthaussen
(17,217 posts)... I wish I'd been able to get away with it when I was in school. Unfortunately, my teachers were always bugging me about pesky things called "facts."
-- Mal
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Says Obama is not helping to increase police deaths to the levels of Walker's childhood.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Even the Koch's must be having second thoughts about the dud they bought.
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)it is also that they are of malicious intent. Wait, that's 100% bad and without any saving grace whatsoever. Quite an accomplishment in a bad way.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)The real issue here is perception which has everything to do with the availability of news and information today as opposed to 30 years ago. Consider how news was delivered in the 80s, it was either in 30 minute spots or newspaper. Journalists had to decide what was worth reporting due to limited time on television and limited space in print. This is no longer the case with web delivery and 24 hour news cycles. Yes, cable news networks existed in the 80s but they had no way near the level of influence that they maintain today. The result is the perception that things are worse today because we hear about every tragedy and terrible event. Because the delivery of news can be immediate, it also allows the media to sensationalize in a way that was not possible in previous decades.
So yes, Scott Walker is an idiot for making that statement without checking his facts. I would never vote for the guy but he is just another example of a behavior that really is not party specific... the assumption that things today are so very much different than earlier decades. We fail to recognize the influence that access to information has on our presumptive opinions.
Turbineguy
(37,372 posts)I think too many cops are getting shot.
dickthegrouch
(3,184 posts)There are more cops around to arrest Walker
No other part of that graph could possibly be disturbing
Cha
(297,774 posts)Initech
(100,107 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)A pair of malignant mental midgits this country would be better off to ignore.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)It's called "Nixon's Corner".
barbtries
(28,811 posts)i'm so sick of the racism and the bullshit every where i turn. i feel as if i am out of touch with a world i don't want to be part of. i'm tired of the meanness and the disingenuity and the nature of what feels like a self-fulfilling prophecy that includes every other person on the street carrying and being willing to use a gun, endless war, the continued dumbing down of the nation, on and on. so here's some facts people.
while i'm at it get rid of DWS and bring back howard dean, a robust conversation and 50 state strategy. aargh
joshdawg
(2,651 posts)Wonder what it feels like to have a single digit IQ.