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davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 02:41 AM Sep 2015

THIS IS CRAZY: CRIMINALIZING MENTAL HEALTH

Last edited Sun Sep 27, 2015, 09:46 AM - Edit history (2)

I have no idea if this has been posted, but it is another great series by Brave New Films:


***Graphic Warning***
It is possible scenes in these videos could lead to trigger memories so if you believe this may be possible I 'advise against watch them.


Part I:




Part 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=465&v=18ZhCxEVaqI


Part 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=465&v=18ZhCxEVaqI


Click on the link to sign the petition to stop the criminalization of mental health:

http://www.bravenewfilms.org/this_is_crazy

Finally, please D & R to keep this visible!
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THIS IS CRAZY: CRIMINALIZING MENTAL HEALTH (Original Post) davidpdx Sep 2015 OP
i had a schizophrenic friend who was in a fight with a cop redruddyred Sep 2015 #1
You may want to add a graphic warning to this. PotatoChip Sep 2015 #2
Will do davidpdx Sep 2015 #4
I had to bail because the "music" was so loud, it was interfering with the dialog. -none Sep 2015 #3
I watched it on the website and had no problem davidpdx Sep 2015 #5
That is not the problem. -none Sep 2015 #6
Ah I see davidpdx Sep 2015 #7
I could not watch this. I have a relative who is autistic, and has other 1monster Sep 2015 #8
I am sorry to hear that davidpdx Sep 2015 #9
 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
1. i had a schizophrenic friend who was in a fight with a cop
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 04:48 AM
Sep 2015

he was having a psychotic episode and they started beating up on him and he fought back like any rational person would. and then they escalated it, just like you saw in that sandra bland video.
WHAT THE FUCK
they do it cos they can get away with it, say someone's crazy and suddenly they're an unreliable witness and no one will believe them ever.
the stats back this up too, disabled people, esp those with mental illness have a far higher rate of victimization than general population.
I hate cops, I know what they do.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
2. You may want to add a graphic warning to this.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 05:33 AM
Sep 2015

Otherwise, a good, informative video. And I like that you added a link for the petition.

-none

(1,884 posts)
3. I had to bail because the "music" was so loud, it was interfering with the dialog.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:27 AM
Sep 2015

Why do they do that? What's the music for on something like this anyway?
They would get a better response if they would turn down the background music so it really was the background, instead of the dialog being the background.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
5. I watched it on the website and had no problem
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 09:40 AM
Sep 2015

You might try that. The link is the one down at the bottom. All three videos are on the same page.

-none

(1,884 posts)
6. That is not the problem.
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 09:51 AM
Sep 2015

Both places have the same video and audio. The problem is the beat in the music drives my hearing aids AGC to cut the level of the sound so far down I can't hear the talking. Without my hearing aids, the music just distracts too much or covers over the talking.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
7. Ah I see
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 09:57 AM
Sep 2015
It is too bad that the automatic closed captioning technology is not better, then you could turn down the sound and read the captions. I've tried that to show videos on Youtube to my students (I teach ESL abroad) and it is not accurate at all.

The videos were very informative in that they had both people who had been in prison and many advocates that are trying to improve the way people with mental health are treated both inside prison and after they are released.

On edit: I just tried the captioning and it isn't that bad. You might turn the caption on and the sound down.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
8. I could not watch this. I have a relative who is autistic, and has other
Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:20 PM
Sep 2015

handicaps.

He began learning to communicate beyond a first grade level at age 16. It took him another ten more years to get to about a sixth grade level.

He is sitting in prison doing fifteen years for something that happened twelve years before he was arrested. He was determined to be incompetent to stand trial after he was arrested. But the court system sent him off to a mental institution to be "restored to mental competence." (How is it possible to be restored to something one has never been before?) (The offence he was charged with took place when his mental age level was about that of a socially delayed five year old.)

The level for competence in a criminal trial is incredibly low. All one has to do to be considered "competent to stand trial" is to be able to recite in very simple terms, when asked, what are the jobs of the judge, the prosecuting attorney, the defense attorney, and the the jury. Legally, one is also supposed to be able to aid in one's own defense, but the courts don't think that one is important enough to consider.

People with developmental and mental health issues are often given longer and harsher sentences than people who knowingly commit crimes.

The criminal justice system in this country is not just broken. It is sick and depraved.

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