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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Sun May 20, 2012, 09:31 AM May 2012

Fascist Plots & General Smedley Butler's Warning from History





from "The Corporation":
Despotism was often a useful tool for the corporation to secure foreign markets. Corporations once even attempted to overthrow New Deal President Roosevelt and impose a fascist dictatorship in the US. The story of Major General Smedley Darlington Butler.


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Doremus

(7,261 posts)
1. If you want to freak somebody out, ask them if the BFEE ever tried to overthrow the govt
Sun May 20, 2012, 10:28 AM
May 2012

Then tell them about Smedley Butler and Prescott Bush.

Not everybody is clueless, but the PTB have done such a good job of burying the facts from public view that lots of folks are genuinely stunned to learn the truth.

They look at you with these saucer eyes like you're a Martian and exclaim that it never happened. Deep denial keeps their heads from exploding, I guess. If you enjoy studying human behavior, it's actually very interesting. Give it a try.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. It was the Walker side of the family that was more directly involved with the Banker's Plot.
Sun May 20, 2012, 11:01 AM
May 2012

The American people should learn about the Bush-Walker clan's ties to the coup plot against FDR.

The tie-in with the '34 "bankers plot" against Roosevelt was through Remington Arms and the Walker-Pryor side of the family. See Kevin Phillips eye-opening expose of that chapter in the rise to power by this most notorious group of American fascists: http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/54/54_12-13.pdf

Most people have missed the link to the Banker's Plot because they've focused on Prescott Bush, Dubya's grandfather, whose own involvement with fascism is documented to be through Brown Bros Harriman and its client Fritz Thyssen who funded the rise of the German Nazi Party. If anything, uncle Herbert, the Walkers, and the Pryors were even more extreme Right-wing, and involved with numerous fascist coups.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
4. Those who don't learn from history are doomed . . . to live under corporatism.
Sun May 20, 2012, 11:37 AM
May 2012

In a word: yes. Same wealthy families, same institutions pushing the levers, coups, wars, and crimes against democracy and humanity.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. Why would Bush family send their direct relatives, JP Morgan, to prison?
Sun May 20, 2012, 11:45 AM
May 2012
When the GOP talks about family values, they really do mean it. All sins are forgiven, no crimes against those who are not related are punished. They were speaking the truth. But they just didn't tell you which family they valued.
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
6. That's the reason? Even currently, Bush and Obama are cousins, but only distant cousins.
Sun May 20, 2012, 11:55 AM
May 2012

Eleventh cousins.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500202_162-3424359.html

There must be another reason why the high-level people don't go to prison.

At least during the earlier time period, taxpayer-funded bailouts weren't given to the crooks.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
7. Heres a full version, for anyone interested.
Sun May 20, 2012, 12:08 PM
May 2012

its a great program.




it always amazes me, given what was known about fascist and fascism going into ww2... why people thought fascism was dead when the war ended?
no, it just scattered its believers around the world. including here in the united states.

both before and after ww2, fascists interests have been and are alive and well.
feeding off the state.

kinda makes ya feel like they won after all.
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Interesting that this story returns,
Sun May 20, 2012, 01:04 PM
May 2012


Koch family had ties to this group also. Check out todays inter marriage of the BFEEs and all of the new political packs. Very close to the late 30's and early 40's,feudal quest by the same families. Privilege of the white male.
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