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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:46 AM Oct 2015

Elderly protester against Putin attacked by Kremlin thugs, doused with paint & detergent powder



The sign said "We have Putin, no need for a mind." This man, 75-year-old Vladimir Ionov, is currently threatened with prison for protesting under a kind of "three strikes" law for protesters.

The members of two pro-Kremlin organizations [NOD and SERB] who attacked an elderly pensioner holding a single-person picket outside the History Museum in Moscow on Oct 24 threatened to do the same to “all those who insult Putin, insult Russia”.

75-year-old Vladimir Ionov was standing alone with a placard reading “We have Putin, no need for a mind” when he was approached by Igor Beketov [who calls himself Gosha Tarasevich] from SERB who demanded to know why Ionov was insulting people who had voted for Russian President Vladimir Putin. Tarasevich claimed also that the words on the placard fall under Article 319 of the Criminal Code (insulting a representative of the authorities).

Seconds later Ionov was doused first in green paint, then with some kind of chemical cleaning substance which got into and burned his eye. The assailants must have been aware they were attacking somebody old enough to be their grandfather.
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No police officers came even close. It is quite likely, however, that they would have been there immediately had any other people tried to defend Ionov, since that would have provided an excuse to accuse Ionov and others of holding an ‘unauthorized gathering’.

Ionov’s trial is currently underway on surreal and disturbing charges. He is the first of four people so far to be tried under a new article of the Criminal Code which envisages up to 5-year sentences if a court has issued three rulings on administrative offences within 180 days. It is quite standard in today’s Russia for police to detain people at entirely peaceful protests, with administrative protocols then drawn up and processed by the courts with no questions asked. Three such unwarranted administrative penalties can now lead to criminal prosecution.

Ionov is accused of four episodes: a single-person picket on Jan 10 with a placard: “Je suis Charlie” [this was just after the massacre at Charlie Hebdo in Paris]; taking part in gatherings on Jan 15 and on March 21, as well as participation in a picket in support of Nadiya Savchenko on May 11 (the imprisoned Ukrainian MP’s birthday).

On June 28 the authorities blocked Ionov’s pension card citing his non-payment of administrative fines as the reason. He is now, therefore, effectively deprived even of his pension.

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MattSh

(3,714 posts)
2. From a Ukrainian Source...
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:28 AM
Oct 2015

Anybody see any possibility of bias here? Especially since anybody in Ukraine who reports positively about anything Russia risks being shut down by Nazi Right Sector thugs? It's happened numerous times already.

KHPG is the Kharkiv (City in Ukraine) Human Rights Protection Group

Oh yeah, and the author, Halya Coynash, has been the leading the trumpet section of EuroMaidan since the very beginning. She may still be a fan, but a recent poll gave PM Yatsenyuk a 1% approval rating.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. Oh, you want to talk about Nazi thugs?
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 06:14 AM
Oct 2015

Please tell me more how 50% of Russians regard the terrorist-turned-genocidal dictator and Hitler-buddy Stalin as a folk-hero.

The guy who was a terrorist back when the communists fought the czar-regime.

The guy whose wife most probably falsified Lenin's last will to make him the new leader.

The guy who had political opponents arrested, killed and assassinated left and right.

The guy whose agrarian policies starved millions to death in Ukraine.

The guy who partnered up with Hitler to conquer Poland and share it among them.

The guy who had his own army-officers killed en masse during WWII because they weren't politically loyal enough to him.

The guy who was so absolutely hated in Ukraine that the Ukrainians rather teamed up with the Nazis during WWII than continue living under russian occupation.

The guy whose regime consisted of permanent state-terror against his own people.




Dig up any contemporary poll and you will find that roughly 50% of Russians think of him as a hero.
And now, please tell me how ukrainian Neo-Nazis and the CIA are the only possible explanations why Ukraine has bad feelings towards Russia.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
5. Communists are not Nazis. Never have been.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 06:21 AM
Oct 2015

Anyone who goes onto a political board and start posting shit should at a minimum understand things like that.

And yes, I can tell you about Ukrainian neo-nazis. How? Because I fuckin' live in Ukraine, that's how. And because I live here, I'm concerned about the mess in this house, not somebody else's house.

Try worrying about shit in your own house for a change.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
6. I did not say that Communists and Nazis are the same.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 06:26 AM
Oct 2015

And you did not respond to my attempt to move this beyond black-and-white.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
14. wow...sounds like you are clearly on the side of the thugs & Putin's fascist gov
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 04:23 PM
Oct 2015

So you think it's all "bias" ? And so what --this old man isn't really protesting, he's a terrorist or something and deserves getting attacked. Did he also deserve getting beaten in jail, or going to prison for these little demonstrations on the street?

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
9. This should be reported more from the MSM about Putin and the The Surgeon, RS.......................
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 08:54 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/putins-angels-inside-russias-most-infamous-motorcycle-club-20151008

Because his (Putin) right wing psychopaths and what they are doing to the country isn't being reported enough


This sociopath (Putin) has the means and the button



Honk-------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
11. Putin is Bush on steroids
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:00 PM
Oct 2015

after a brain transplant, a very dangerous fascist thug. With that said, if that's what the Russians want then good luck with that.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
12. This looks like a Trump rally in this country
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:48 PM
Oct 2015

Or certain activities in Germany during the waning days of the Weimar Republic.

Ah, yes . . . Il Duce ha sempre ragione!

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