A long long time ago President Eisenhower warned us what was to happen, here we are yet again!

[RKP5637]

[iandhr]

1. Ike must be turning in his grave given what has happened to his party.

[jalan48]

2. Unfortunately, I think the MIC has taken over.

Maybe it's part of the natural progression of empires, but I don't see how we reverse the trend. How do we cut our Defense budget to where it's more in line with the defense budgets of countries around the rest of the world? How do we close unneeded military bases and lay off thousands of well paid workers to free up money for the public sector? Will our entrenched military bureaucracy and it's multi-billion dollar free market support system simply downsize because we want it to, or will we see a rise in terrorist activity requiring no change to the status quo?

[newfie11]

5. I have no doubt they've taken over

They have plenty of money to bribe most politicians.
This was probably the plan with Northwoods and look what happened to Kennedy.

[Smarmie Doofus]

3. I wonder if Clinton supporters are troubled by this.

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Remember: this is three and a half years before the Goldwater campaign.

I'll grant them this: their candidate seems to have EVOLVED beyond Goldwater in the ensuing 50 years on domestic and cultural issues ( Though it's hard to know if that particular sort of "evolution"... if you will.... is backed by incontrovertible science. And how much is just "position taking".)

But in terms of foreign policy and the MIC and "war w/o end".... she still seems all "Barry" and no "Ike".

Quo vadis, Ms. Clinton?

[cantbeserious]

12. They Are Quite Satisfied With The War Hawk To Be And The Continuation Of War And Destruction

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[tecelote]

4. ...with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together.

"We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together."

We have lost our peaceful methods and goals completely.

Today, we accept war as part of our national being.

Collateral damage is barely mentioned and is not part of the equation anymore.

It's time Peace became a political subject again.

[tk2kewl]

11. We have lost our peaceful methods and goals, largely because

we no longer have anything close to an alert and knowledgeable citizenry

[EEO]

6. I continue to assert Eisenhower's warning was too late.

If it was not too late, Eisenhower would have tried to stop the MIC.

[PotatoChip]

8. Good, but chilling point. (nt)

[brush]

7. Back then the Republicans had some sense

Seems there's a direct correlation between the rise of the MIC and the rise of the crazies in the repug party.

[Enthusiast]

9. Kicked and recommended!

[Plucketeer]

10. WWII really spawned the MIC

How many of you know that the first jet-powered aircraft flew before Germany invaded Poland? The ONLY reason we didn't see jets proliferate until the last months of the war was thanks to Nazi arrogance. It was their aviation industry that brought jets to reality, but Hitler's generals phoo-phoo'd the jet because they figured the prop planes they had in service were more than adequate to carry out the pursuits.
Once jets were realized for the techno-jump they really were, the war's course (and ultimate end) was laid out. While these advanced aircraft were just entering service in 1945, the war ended before they could barely demonstrate their abilities. But jet aircraft and the atomic weaponry they'd ultimately carry, were what kept the MIC going strong long after the ink was dried on Japan's surrender documents. Those items of hardware - their urgency fed by the fuel that was the cold war - were what spawned the monster that gorges itself at our treasury. Those that dare to stop it from feeding there are writing themselves right out of the picture. And they know it.

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