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WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 09:39 AM Dec 2015

TYT: ISIS Leadership Crippled… Thanks Obama



President Obama gets a lot of grief about many different things, including foreign policy. We’re always told by the Republicans that he doesn’t know what he’s doing, he’s weak, ineffectual, etc. Is this true? Cenk Uygur, host of the The Young Turks, breaks it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below.

"A U.S.-led coalition has killed 10 Islamic State leaders in the past month with targeted air strikes, including individuals linked to last month's attacks in Paris, a spokesman for the coalition said on Tuesday.

"Over the past month, we've killed 10 ISIL leadership figures with targeted air strikes, including several external attack planners, some of whom are linked to the Paris attacks," said U.S. Army Colonel Steve Warren, a spokesman for the U.S.-led military campaign against Islamic State, also known by the acronym ISIL. "Others had designs on further attacking the West."

One of those killed was Abdul Qader Hakim, who facilitated the militants' external operations and had links to the Paris attack network, Warren said. He was killed in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul on Dec. 26.”*

Read more here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/isis-leaders-killed_5682a853e4b014efe0d93a2a
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TYT: ISIS Leadership Crippled… Thanks Obama (Original Post) WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2015 OP
Thanks Putin. CJCRANE Dec 2015 #1
Yep, I noticed the administration was all talk and not much action... MattSh Dec 2015 #2
US was already bombing oil tankers unc70 Dec 2015 #3
That's incorrect. The US coalition only started bombing them after the Russians CJCRANE Dec 2015 #4
US began bombing Nov 15-16; Russia, Nov 18 unc70 Dec 2015 #6
TYT? Why the link to another source? saidsimplesimon Dec 2015 #5
Time to burn th Op. PeoViejo Dec 2015 #7

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. Thanks Putin.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 09:48 AM
Dec 2015


In fact I think Russia's policy of bombing their oil tankers and oil facilities is much better than zapping a leader here and there.

It's just like the piecemeal approach of the Bush era where we had the monthly Al Qaeda #2 strikes.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
2. Yep, I noticed the administration was all talk and not much action...
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 10:20 AM
Dec 2015

concerning ISIS. Then Putin put himself in the picture. And now administration figures are front and center trying to take credit for themselves when there's little evidence they have done much of anything to cripple ISIS.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
3. US was already bombing oil tankers
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:39 PM
Dec 2015

US even dropped leaflets warning drivers to leave their trucks, which they did. Many hundreds of trucks had been destroyed before Russia began its bombing campaign.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
4. That's incorrect. The US coalition only started bombing them after the Russians
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:41 PM
Dec 2015

and the Russians have bombed more. Hence the spat with Turkey who are making money from the illegal oil trade.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
6. US began bombing Nov 15-16; Russia, Nov 18
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 07:10 PM
Dec 2015

US began bombing the tanker trucks Nov 15-16; Russia, Nov 18.

There are lots of sources that confirm these dates for the tanker bombings -- NYT, BBC, etc. A lot of that was missed at the time because the Paris attacks had just happened on Nov 13.

Starting a week or two later, various RW groups started pushing the meme that the US had waited until after Russia had bombed first, that Obama was an incompetent coward, and the 45 minute warning to the drivers showed Obama was more concerned about a few civilians than with defeating ISIS. Some sites even accuse Obama of protecting ISIS. In most cases these sites use incorrect dates for the events, for example the beginning of Russian air strikes of any type being used rather than when those tanker specific.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
5. TYT? Why the link to another source?
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 01:46 PM
Dec 2015

I'm a Cenk and TYT fan.

The world, especially those in the middle east, needs to do more to send Da'esh to the gates of hell. A civil war in Turkey will only create more turmoil and refugees. The US is not the world's moral police person. The US did not draw the maps that divide ethnic groups and tribes. I'm not an isolationist, just pragmatic.

As for the bare chested man on horseback, Tsar Putin, it amazes me from the comments there is such a bromance. Putin always has a motive that relates to his own profit. He is a billionaire oligarch. He allows no free press or free speech (publicly he sings another tune, but all critics are silenced, one way or another). He is not a Communist. He is an opportunist. imo

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