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12 year old Victoria Grant explains why her homeland Canada and most of the world are in debt (Original Post) Tony_FLADEM Jun 2012 OP
Connect this with "State Bank of North Dakota" jerseyjack Jun 2012 #1
Going back to capital-in-hand. Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #2
This should help you understand. RC Jun 2012 #3
What you said and jonthebru Jun 2012 #4
 

jerseyjack

(1,361 posts)
1. Connect this with "State Bank of North Dakota"
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 10:56 AM
Jun 2012

and get an understand of how North Dakota's finances enjoy more stability than those of other states.

 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
2. Going back to capital-in-hand.
Sun Jun 3, 2012, 11:08 AM
Jun 2012

I get what the girl is saying, but I'm not sure I buy it entirely.

Basically what the banks are doing is this:

You give out $10 in loans. If the loans are repaid, you will get back $50.

So you have a potential future income of $40.

That potential future income has value to other people who believe that it is likely the debts will be repaid. You can sell it, or use it as collateral.

Yes, there is a risk that the debts won't be repaid, and that there is no value in the loans. And yes, being in debt can feel like slavery and it definitely limits your options.

But as long as all the transactions are voluntary and transparent, I don't see the problem.

I think the biggest problem with the banking system is not the transactions, it's that they are buying policies that favor them financially.

jonthebru

(1,034 posts)
4. What you said and
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:57 PM
Jun 2012

We all must know the fact that all our money is borrowed from the "central bank." The value of the cash or debt is perceived value that is entirely "collateral." You, your ability to pay taxes and buy thingamabobs are part of the "collateral." Even the government borrows money, it gave up the creating of money years ago. Our country (USA) has been around this wheel a few times. A really good video is "The Secret Of Oz." That video is a real education on the money issue.
And also know we can't go to a "gold standard" because there is simply not enough gold. The equity model has been used for so long that our perceived worth is much larger than the mineral value of gold.
The Secret Of Oz.


Basically, all you know is not really real. Of put another way "All you know is wrong."
The key is getting money out of the political campaigns and creating a democracy that involves the citizen. People have to stay awake and be engaged. Ethics of our elected officials is a big deal. Dirty politics turns people off and they don't engage and show up to vote. Sadly, negative ads work.
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