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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:07 PM Apr 2016

Why Is The DNC Failing So Hard At Addressing Voter Suppression?



#AskROF: “You said DNC was doing nothing regarding voter suppression but why? High turnout is good for Democrats, because it is good for Bernie.”

Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins answers this question on Ring of Fire on Free Speech TV.
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Why Is The DNC Failing So Hard At Addressing Voter Suppression? (Original Post) GoLeft TV Apr 2016 OP
They're NOT trying to address it. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #1
She or someone close to her. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #13
They have become more and more like the GOP Baobab Apr 2016 #20
+1 daleanime Apr 2016 #26
I just switched from my democratic voter registration to unaffiliated/independent. I will still be RKP5637 Apr 2016 #28
x2 oldandhappy Apr 2016 #39
I've been a strong democrat for eons. I just can't mindlessly support the new democratic party of RKP5637 Apr 2016 #40
I'm convinced the party conservatives see it as a good thing. Warpy Apr 2016 #30
I agree with your assessment 100%. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #32
Exactly, and we've been told as much. It's all about $$$$$$'s, and people, well, not so much! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2016 #41
what has bernie done about during his 25 yrs as a congressional back bencher? nt msongs Apr 2016 #2
Thank you for considering Bernie.... daleanime Apr 2016 #6
Why blame the failings of your pathetic party on Bernie? frylock Apr 2016 #15
I'm glad you asked. SHRED Apr 2016 #17
Corruption by the Entrenched Elite Establishment. SoapBox Apr 2016 #3
Yep, they can say it anyway they want, but it's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s and when it RKP5637 Apr 2016 #29
As i have said before, this is all about getting Hillary the nomination. zeemike Apr 2016 #4
+1 daleanime Apr 2016 #7
Ding ding StoneCarver Apr 2016 #19
because of triangulation? Baobab Apr 2016 #21
Yep, lesser evilism... zeemike Apr 2016 #25
Because Hillary Clinton benefits from it. Gene Debs Apr 2016 #5
I think Nancy Pelosi set the example FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #8
Funny how her husband's dealings have been forgotten... Crash2Parties Apr 2016 #10
Most likely Old Codger Apr 2016 #9
The DNC is a one-person-show: Debbie. When Pres. Obama gets tired of DEMs losing, he NCjack Apr 2016 #11
Where are these young voters who will vote for Hillary? Baobab Apr 2016 #22
Correct. That is why she and the DNC stopped registration drives at colleges and universities. NCjack Apr 2016 #23
Even many beneficiaries of bad policy Baobab Apr 2016 #24
Good rhetorical question. chapdrum Apr 2016 #12
Yup, DNC would rather zentrum Apr 2016 #14
In what universe are the DNC addressing voter suppression? DNC = do not challenge (the valerief Apr 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Apr 2016 #18
Uhm... because they are the ones DOING it. ⬇️ agracie Apr 2016 #27
Hadn't Seen This Video noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #31
President Bill Clinton on the Voter Expansion Project Gothmog Apr 2016 #33
Department of Justice Sues Texas Over Voter ID Law Gothmog Apr 2016 #34
As Hillary Clinton Pitches Voting Rights On The Trail, Her Counsel Looks To Fight For Them in Court Gothmog Apr 2016 #35
same reason they're not doing anything about racial divisiveness or gender-baiting! MisterP Apr 2016 #36
Combating voter suppression is not that easy Gothmog Apr 2016 #37
So basically we're stuck with DWS Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2016 #38

onecaliberal

(32,878 posts)
1. They're NOT trying to address it.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:10 PM
Apr 2016

They've taken the if you can't beat them, join them stance. Hillary bought the votes months and months ago.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
20. They have become more and more like the GOP
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:11 PM
Apr 2016

they are becoming an enemy of democracy.

And we can't just be blind to it.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
28. I just switched from my democratic voter registration to unaffiliated/independent. I will still be
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:48 PM
Apr 2016

voting democratic by the candidate, but I don't want the DNC/DLC/DWS to think I'm one of their captured herd. And, I feel much better. Political parties in this country are an absolute mess. And, unaffiliated/independent are the majority in the US, and growing and growing.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
40. I've been a strong democrat for eons. I just can't mindlessly support the new democratic party of
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:39 AM
Apr 2016

DNC/DLC/DWS/HRC anymore, their rightward march and the party of wealth. Democratic candidates will always get my vote, but not the new establishment.

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
30. I'm convinced the party conservatives see it as a good thing.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 07:02 PM
Apr 2016

They honestly don't care which party wins as long as their personal cash flows are positive.

They're also the ones at the center of party power.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
41. Exactly, and we've been told as much. It's all about $$$$$$'s, and people, well, not so much! n/t
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:41 AM
Apr 2016

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
29. Yep, they can say it anyway they want, but it's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s and when it
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:51 PM
Apr 2016

comes to that, R's and D's in the "Entrenched Elite Establishment" are the same. I've known them, known them well. Bernie is a breath of fresh air, but far too many Americans still don't get WTF is going on in the US.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
4. As i have said before, this is all about getting Hillary the nomination.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:19 PM
Apr 2016

Nothing else really matters.
Once it is Hillary against any GOPer the oligarchs have won no matter who is actually elected.

So voter suppression can only help them.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
25. Yep, lesser evilism...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:40 PM
Apr 2016

And large numbers of people voting is too unpredictable and hard to control.
Better to have small numbers of people they can count on to vote the right way...the way their emotions created by the TV soap opera propaganda leads them.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
8. I think Nancy Pelosi set the example
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:54 PM
Apr 2016

when confronted with issues that challenge the very fabric of Democracy, those things you"take off the table".

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
10. Funny how her husband's dealings have been forgotten...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:29 PM
Apr 2016

I wonder how many more US Post Office buildings in prime locations he has sold to his Goldman buddies at less than market value since the story lost the attention of the press?

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
11. The DNC is a one-person-show: Debbie. When Pres. Obama gets tired of DEMs losing, he
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:01 PM
Apr 2016

will replace her with someone who will form the committee into a team and address the problem of recruiting and registering new members of the party. But, for now, the system is optimized to operate for the election of Hillary. New members, esp. the young, support Bernie, and that's not good for Hillary. If Hillary wins the DEM nomination, the DNC will begin a frantic registration of young Democrats. If Bernie win the nomination, well, he is on his own. No help from this DNC.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
23. Correct. That is why she and the DNC stopped registration drives at colleges and universities.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:25 PM
Apr 2016

Students mostly vote for Bernie.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
12. Good rhetorical question.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:19 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe they'd prefer Shillary.

All they have to do is consult with their "esteemed colleagues across the aisle."

After all, the Republicans practically wrote the book on voter suppression.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
14. Yup, DNC would rather
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

…have a Republican like Kasich than Bernie. By restoring the Democratic party to its FDR roots, he's really not wanted.

Somehow they seems to think a depressed Dem turnout will still result in an HRC win? But in any event—the risk is worth defeating Bernie.

Response to GoLeft TV (Original post)

agracie

(950 posts)
27. Uhm... because they are the ones DOING it. ⬇️
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:47 PM
Apr 2016

(Now we are beginning to realize that Bernie's database has been hacked and used in MANY states to alter voter registration. But the following article is still pertinent)

Was New York's Voter Registration Data Hacked and Changed Like Arizona ?

"One of the more disturbing allegations made on the Heavy article by an anonymous poster was that the databases for people to access voter registration and to be able to change party affiliations is run by NGP VAN. NGP VAN was the company at the center of the controversy last December about the lack of security in the DNC databases that allowed Bernie Sanders staffers to access some of Hillary Clinton’s data. The company is headed by one of Bill Clinton’s former staffers, Stu Trevelyan, and one of the employees is the nephew of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the DNC chairwoman who has sparked outrage over allegations of trying to game the election for Clinton."

My comment:
So... the same company manages BOTH databases. Not too difficult to pick out Bernie supporters and purge their registrations. I wonder how many OTHER states this has happened in. NO WONDER Bernie does better in caucus states !

Go here: http://www.inquisitr.com/2930677/are...-like-arizona/

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
31. Hadn't Seen This Video
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 07:21 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not sure if this has already been posted at DU but I just ran across this video of the AZ Sec. of State confirming that registrations were changed in AZ (someone in her own office had theirs changed). They are cross checking all provisional ballots. The video was posted 3 days ago so this may be old news here?

http://www.socialisttimes.com/arizona-secretary-state-confirms-election-fraud/

Gothmog

(145,433 posts)
33. President Bill Clinton on the Voter Expansion Project
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:21 PM
Apr 2016

I volunteered with the DNC voter expansion project in 2014 on voter id in Texas. We trained voter id assistants and got around 300 people ids. The DNC paid for one full time staffer who headed up program and I drafted and did the training materials for the project



We lack the resources to do more.

Gothmog

(145,433 posts)
34. Department of Justice Sues Texas Over Voter ID Law
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:24 PM
Apr 2016

This lawsuit is currently on en banc appeal to the 5th Circuit but the DOJ did a ton of valuable work in this case http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/Politics/department-justice-sues-texas-voter-id-law/story?id=20037384

The Obama administration will sue Texas to block its voter ID law, the Justice Department said on Thursday.

The lawsuit will challenge the law under Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color or language. Texas moved swiftly to implement its voter ID law after the Supreme Court in June struck down a requirement that states with a history of racial discrimination seek permission from the federal government to change their voting laws.

Texas was subject to that process, known as “preclearance.”

“Today’s action marks another step forward in the Justice Department’s continuing effort to protect the voting rights of all eligible Americans,” Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement. “We will not allow the Supreme Court’s recent decision to be interpreted as open season for states to pursue measures that suppress voting rights.”

Gothmog

(145,433 posts)
35. As Hillary Clinton Pitches Voting Rights On The Trail, Her Counsel Looks To Fight For Them in Court
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:26 PM
Apr 2016

Marc Elias, the chief counsel for the Clinton Victory Counsel program, is busy suing the GOP and fighting GOP vote suppression http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/voting-rights-lawsuits-_n_7594960.html

The general counsel for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign is heading up three high-profile lawsuits against Republican-backed voting restrictions in what is shaping up to be a perfect political and legal storm leading up to the 2016 election.

The attorney, Marc Elias, is involved in lawsuits challenging measures passed in Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin, arguing that laws cutting back early voting, restricting registration and requiring photo identification to vote, among other measures, disproportionately impact racial minorities.

Conservatives have argued such measures protect against voter fraud, and have called the lawsuits a political effort to energize Democratic voters. The financial involvement of the billionaire liberal philanthropist George Soros, who is supporting the suits, has only incensed them further.

There are high stakes to the lawsuits, as the Supreme Court displayed a certain skepticism about federal voting rights legislation when it struck down a key section of the landmark Voting Rights Act in 2013. That provision had required states and localities with a history of voting discrimination to first clear any changes to their voting laws with the federal government or in federal court. The VRA still bars voting procedures that discriminate against racial minorities, but the strength of that section hasn’t been tested since the court’s controversial decision two years ago.

So, while the politics of Elias’ cases have attracted most of the attention — Clinton recently decried measures supported by Republican governors, like fellow presidential hopeful Scott Walker of Wisconsin — there is an equivalent amount of intrigue on the legal side. Some of the provisions targeted in the lawsuits, like Wisconsin’s voter identification law, have already been challenged, while others, like Virginia’s photo ID law, haven’t yet seen the inside of a courtroom.

The GOP is very good at voter suppression and I am glad that Marc is fighting against the GOP. Unfortunately, the Wisconsin voer id law will be in effect for Tuesday primary.

Gothmog

(145,433 posts)
37. Combating voter suppression is not that easy
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:16 PM
Apr 2016

As noted above, the DOJ sued Texas on the voter id law. Even though 7 federal judges have ruled against the Texas voter id law, we were stuck with in during the March 1 Texas primary. The DOJ and the Texas Party tried to get the 5th circuit to rule on this law before the primary but the court ignored their filings. See http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/documents/SupplementalAuthoritiesFiledbyAppelleesMsImaniClarkandTexasLeagueofYoungVotersEducationFund1.pdf

Right now, the DOJ and the private plaintiffs are asking the SCOTUS to lift the stay of the Cir See
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/documents/Veasey-ApplicationToVacateStay03252016.pdf In addition to the DOJ, one of the lead plaintiff attorneys, Chad Dunn, also happens to be the Texas Democratic Party outside counsel (Chad is representing Congressman Marc Veasey in this case)

It is not that easy to fight voter suppression

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
38. So basically we're stuck with DWS
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:00 AM
Apr 2016

until November. Six more months. All the more reason to boot her out of the House. Oh, wait a minute - she could still stay on until the general is over and Obama is gone, right? Even if she loses her House seat? We have to support Tim Canova - he's the antidote long term.

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