Greenpeace Tells Thom - Here Are Hillary's Connections to Oil & Gas...

[thomhartmann]

[misterhighwasted]

1. OMG! They're the exact same connections as bernie's!

Well what do ya know. Why don't you tell us the rest of the story thom.
Same connections as bernie.

Lovely.

[misterhighwasted]

4. of course sanders fans will say the truth finally being told of bernie is bull shit.

We expect that.
Doesn't change the truth.
Bernie took donations from the same group.
What makes his right & hers wrong?

Nothing. Its the same thing.

[INdemo]

8. I ask you how many $225,000 speeches has Bernie given for GoldmanSachs?

How many Corporations contributed to her Foundation for favors as SOS and then gave to her political PAC's
Your Republican Right Wing talking points is not getting you anywhere and you really should get a new script

[misterhighwasted]

11. LOL..oh my. now let's quickly pivot to the next stump speech meme on the list.

Keep going.
There's more.
Third way, wall street, benghazi, 157 FBI Agents (which was actually 12), and, and, and.
We've heard the same list of smears from day 1.

Hasn't team bernie sent out a new list to his $16 million spent on social media hacks?
We'll be waiting to debunk every one of them.
waiting..waiting

[JDPriestly]

21. Sanders signed the pledge not to take any more fossil fuel money and to return it if he knows

it is from the fossil fuel industry.

Why doesn't Hillary sign it too?

Bernie is planning to send that money back.

Why doesn't Hillary do likewise?

And why is Hillary and why are her superpacs accepting money from lobbyists whose clients include the fossil fuel industry?

Let's be thoroughly honest here.

Hillary should return this money. And so should Bernie to the extent he has received any of it.

They should also return money from law firms and lawyers who currently represent fossil fuel companies. Just to be safe.

[beastie boy]

33. I'll get back to you when (or if) Bernie returns the $53,000 he got from them.

And Hillary is probably more reluctant than Bernie to sign pledges she can't keep. Just a wild guess why she didn't sign.

[misterhighwasted]

34. lol. he took it. accepted it AND attacked Hillary for doing the same as he did.

Haa. Oh my. Well he wasted no time attacking her so until he returns the donation, he's no better that she.

Would he have returned it had he not been found out?
Waiting for him to return it & apologise to the people he offended by this double standard.

Bets he didn't tell Greenpeace about his own donations from the same group as Hillary's.
Ya. That's bernie.
whoo hoo!

[George II]

37. Maybe because she hasn't taken any money from the fossil fuel industry. Don't you realize.....

....that it's illegal to take money from ANY industry?

So Sanders' "pledge" is empty - basically he pledged not to do something that's illegal anyway.

On the other hand, all of Clinton's contributions are itemized so we can see where her contributors work. Sanders has tens of millions of dollars of unitemized contributions, so we have no idea if they're from the "fossil fuel industry" or not.

Let's be thoroughly honest here.

Clinton hasn't accepted any money from the "fossil fuel industry".

I wish the FEC would put out a primer on campaign finance laws, regulations, and permissible contributions. That would make it so much easier for many here.

[misterhighwasted]

6. No, we all know who's doing the lying. Thanks Rachel Maddow

Thanks for the truth of the false narrative from bernie & his troops.
Bernie can now apologise to Hillary & the people for this.
..waiting..waiting

[cantbeserious]

7. That's Right - HRC

eom

[JDPriestly]

24. This is Green Peace, not Bernie's campaign telling us that, yes, Hillary's superpacs and donors

include fossil fuel lobbyists and bundlers who are handing her money from the fossil fuel industry including its executives. Bernie took the pledge. Why doesn't Hillary?

Rachel Maddow is a pro-Hillary journalist. Who can trust her when it comes to reporting on Hillary's ties to the fossil fuel industry?

I don't.

Hillary needs to pass inspection by journalists and Bernie supporters on this issue. She is just hurting herself with her obfuscation on this point.

And . . . . she looked really mean in that video.

She needs to learn to control her temper.

Bernie gets angry, but when he gets angry, he appears outraged at social injustice.

Hillary looks personally hurt. That is a big problem for her. She needs to contact that part of herself that she allowed to dominate when she responded to the woman from Green Peace because when she allows it to take charge, she really harms herself. She does not look presidential when she acts like that. She looks irritable and short-tempered.

Sorry to have to say this, but watch the video.

She really looked mean in it. That is not a good campaign moment. Whew! I'd be worried if I were her adviser. That does not look good.

[George II]

38. Sanders "looks mean" virtually all the time, even when he's smiling.

[okasha]

39. Your post is an excellent example

of how some women enable and collaborate with patriarchy.

Sanders show righteous anger at "social injustice" when he turns red in the face, sprays spite snd jabs the air with his finger.

When Hillary dares to defend herself against an unwarranted attack, she "looks mean."

Thanks for demonstrating exactly why the glass ceiling needs to come down in November.

[JDPriestly]

40. It's what they get angry about as well as how they show their anger.

"When Hillary dares to defend herself . . . ."

Sanders show righteous anger at "social injustice . . . ."

Hillary needs to learn the essential social skill of responding to personal criticism graciously.

Find an example of Bernie reacting to personal criticism in the way that Hillary does.

This has nothing to do with gender.

And while we are at it, Hillary was a lawyer. I hope she never responded to the criticism of a judge, a courtroom judge in the way that she responded in that video.

Nothing to do with gender. Everything to do with being able to deal with criticism.

[okasha]

42. Hillary could have yelled

"Shut up! You don't have the microphone!" at the girl, but she didn't. She didn't even criticize her, if it's true that she isn't affiliated with the Sanders campaign.

The Sanders campaign has been lying at least since the day that Bernie signed an agreement to raise funds for other Democratic candidates. He lied again when he pledged not to run a negative campaign. Hillarry's not the only Democrat who's sick and tired of the slander.

I do hope he'll agree to a New York debate, so that she can address him directly on these issues.

[JDPriestly]

44. Good heavens.

The girl was from Greenpeace. She said what she said based on the evidence that Greenpeace researchers found when the dug deeply into the list of Hillary's donors. That list included lobbyists for oil and gas companies.

Sanders is raising funds for other Democratic candidates. He is raising large amounts of money.

Sanders is not the one leading a negative campaign. What ads has Sanders run that were negative?

It is not "negative" to tell the truth.

Greenpeace also demanded that Bernie sign a pledge to return oil and gas money and not accept it. He signed.

Bernie asked for the New York debate. He just doesn't want it at the same time as the NCAA run-off. Unlike Hillary, he wants an audience for the debate. So do I.

[okasha]

46. Kindly provide evidence

that Sanders is raising money for other Democrats.

Hillary offered three dates. April 14 is a weekday with no competing sports events in prime time. No reason for Sanders not to accept it.

It's been repeated again and again. Corporations do not make contributions to candidates. They can't, by law. Bernie, like Hillary, has received contributions from employees of energy-related businesses. Get back to us when he returns the money.

Bernie doesn't need to run negative ads abput Hillary. He has Rove and the Koch brothers to do that for him. That's a hella foursome to find in one bed.

[840high]

26. We all know - Hillary the liar.

[questionseverything]

55. hc evolves

[PatrynXX]

31. Rachel does whatever MSNBC

and Roger Ailes tells her to do so she can keep her job. I just won't watch her anymore I haven't since she attacked Obama unfairly over a year ago.

[beastie boy]

35. Do I hear this right? Once again, who is telling Rachel what to do?

Roger Ailes? And what exactly does Rachel do for Roger Ailes?

Mmmm-kay!

[nolabels]

47. Part of the deal with a six and seven digit paycheck

Intuitively suck up to whomever is flowing the cash. Won't be any good though, she still will be without the a job in a year or two.

People that happen find themselves in those places often will never ask themselves "without integrity, what really is my name and title good for ?"

[beastie boy]

32. Anyone with a sense of smell will follow the same script

Because bullshit smells the same to everyone.

[RATM435]

15. Meet the Fossil Fuel Lobbyists Raising Money for Hillary Clinton

Many of Clinton's bundlers are linked to Big Oil, natural gas, and the Keystone pipeline.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/07/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel-lobbyists

[misterhighwasted]

16. Ok now list the fossil fuel donors to Bernie?

OR..who are the foreigners he received donations from.
I think the FEC still has no real response from sanders campaign on that. See how "gotcha" can be an endless game.
Waiting..

Hey, why isn't this posted in GDP, anyway?
Just sayin

[RATM435]

17. Hey, why isn't this posted in GDP, anyway?

Du code for ban this post.

[JDPriestly]

27. Bernie's maximum donation is $2,700 and his average donation is $27..

Not much influence-buying with those amounts of money.

That's the difference. And that is Hillary's problem. She is bought and sold, and not just by the fossil fuel industry.

Bernie's donors give smaller amounts of money and the corporations know he won't be bought or sold.

Everybody knows this difference.

This is not a good point on which to campaign for Hillary.

She loses on this. Why belabor it?

Greenpeace has done the research.

Bernie probably has small to medium donations from all kinds of people. But those sums will not buy his attention much less his support.

This is not a winning point for Hillary.

[beastie boy]

36. Everyone's maximum donation is $2700. It's the legal limit for an individual donation

And Hillary's $900K out of the $160 mil raised by her doesn't buy much influence either.

[JDPriestly]

45. Please post a link to a list of fossil fuel donors to Bernie and the amounts.

As a Bernie supporter, I'd like to see it. How much do you think they would give him -- the maximum of $2700.

[Old Crow]

22. What the hell? Did you even watch the video? (N/T)

[Wibly]

29. Proof please

Please provide a link or some sort of evidence that Sanders has the same connections.
Either that, or demonstrate that, like the GOP, the Clinton campaign is nothing but 'artful smear'.

[revbones]

51. Nice of you to cite Bernie's and prove your point. Oh yeah, you didn't... nt

[questionseverything]

54. bernie's donations are from workers,hc's from lobbyists

4.5 million if we include the superpac

the only mistake greenpeace makes in the interview is claiming hc does not coordinate with her superpac ( it is documented she does)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/05/12/how-a-super-pac-plans-to-coordinate-directly-with-hillary-clintons-campaign/

[stonecutter357]

2. Rachel Maddow Show Analyzes Bernie's Claim

Rachel Maddow Show Analyzes Bernie's Claim That HILLARY Is In The Pocket Of Big Oil... It's FALSE!

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/2/1509392/-Rachel-Maddow-Show-Analyzes-Bernie-s-Claim-That-HILLARY-Is-In-The-Pocket-Of-Big-Oil-It-s-FALSE RT LOL.

[misterhighwasted]

5. It is false yet bernie fans try like heck to change that narrative.

Two candidates did the same thing.
That's it.

[SHRED]

12. Keep talking

http://m.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

[misterhighwasted]

18. Yup. we could talk all day long about this. Pivoting from one debunked

..mispeak to another.
Seriously, he forked over $16 mill to social media hacks just to censor & demean Hillary's message?

It took that much & he's still losing.

Well enjoy your day.
later

[Herman4747]

43. Wow. I had no idea that it was far too painful for you...

...to actually deal with Hillary exporting fracking.
Well, learn something every day!

[misterhighwasted]

48. Lol..keep talking

[Herman4747]

49. Why? You refuse to listen. n/t

[stonecutter357]

23. thanks but i don't need your permission to do a damned thing . .

so you Keep talking .

[SHRED]

25. I'm encouraging the HRC camp to keep talking about oil

I'll keep posting the fracking link up.
It never gets tiring telling this filthy truth.

[misterhighwasted]

50. But its not the truth..but it is a half-way effective campaign stump speech.

So keep talking

[SisterSarah]

52. Her arrow points to the right for a reason

[stonecutter357]

53. Are you a true Bernie supporter ?

[polly7]

9. She's right. Good interview. nt.

[LiberalArkie]

10. Let me toss this in here.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Energy_+_Oil.htm

[misterhighwasted]

14. Btw. Why is this not posted in GDP where it belongs?

Since it includes both Bernie & Hillary it certainly becomes campaign issues.
Not just a multimedia video. It is clearly intended to put one (actual) Dem candidate against the other candidate
Therefore, it most certainly belongs in GDP.
Thanks

[JDPriestly]

28. Because it is a video. And lots of posts are cross-posted and appear in two different

forums or groups. That's the way DU works.

[closeupready]

19. Excellent. Thanks.

K&R

[elleng]

20. She yells at a Greenpeace representative because, she alleges, the Sanders campaign's

been complaining that she has oil and gas connections?

Seems to me her complaint, AND the kerfuffle (around here and elsewhere,) are misplaced.

[ish of the hammer]

41. I have 153 million reasons not to believe a word Clinton says about anything.

That's not campaign contributions, that's just money in their pockets to do, or not do, what, exactly?
Nobody gets that kind of money to talk, unless they are actors. .....
oh wait, following in the hallowed footsteps of Ronnie, perhaps?! Let's see the transcripts.