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Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:27 PM Apr 2016

Yes, Sanders is speaking at the Vatican. Yes, he was invited.



I logged on to DU today to find a group of die-hard Hillary fans delighting in a kerfuffle regarding Senator Sanders and an official in the Vatican, who claimed that Sanders committed a "monumental discourtesy" by asking for an invitation. Something smelled fishy.

I spent ten minutes researching the issue. The story is flat-out wrong and created by someone who evidently has an anti-Sanders axe to grind. Margaret Archer, the Vatican official who said that Senator Sanders committed a "major discourtesy" by asking for an invitation, was contradicted by her superior.

From Fortune:

However, Reuters reported that Sanders was, in fact, invited by an aid who works closely with the Pope, Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo. He is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, a position above the president of the organization, and according to Reuters said of Archer’s comments, "I deny that. It was not that way. This is not true and she knows it. I invited him with her consensus." Reuters also received an email containing a March 30th invitation to Sanders signed by Sorondo.

So there you have it: The story has no legs. (Not that several Hillary supporters won't do their level best to make it walk, like Frankenstein's monster.)

Link to Fortune story:
http://fortune.com/2016/04/08/sanders-vatican-invite/

Edited to change title: Sanders was invited to speak; whether he'll meet the Pope is unclear.
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Yes, Sanders is speaking at the Vatican. Yes, he was invited. (Original Post) Old Crow Apr 2016 OP
He is not actually meeting with the Pope himself, but he was invited to the conference The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #1
My mistake; thank you. Old Crow Apr 2016 #3
You could edit, since the first claim was that he invited himself. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #5
Thank you. I appreciate your thoughts. Old Crow Apr 2016 #7
Even if the Pope himself may not be there... RepubliCON-Watch Apr 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author LAS14 Apr 2016 #6
Maybe you should edit your subject, so the misinformation doesn't... LAS14 Apr 2016 #8
Agreed; I changed the post's title. Thanks! (N/T) Old Crow Apr 2016 #9
Ooops. I meant to respond to you. Instead.. LAS14 Apr 2016 #11
We should flag ourselves as a Sanders and Hillary... LAS14 Apr 2016 #10
Awww! I like that idea. Old Crow Apr 2016 #12

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,797 posts)
1. He is not actually meeting with the Pope himself, but he was invited to the conference
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:30 PM
Apr 2016

by Msgr. Sorondo, the Pope's friend.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
3. My mistake; thank you.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:34 PM
Apr 2016

Now I see what's got the Hillary supporters up in arms. On The View, Joy Behar asked, "You're meeting with the Pope?" and Sanders indicated he was.

Hmmm. Maybe I should self-delete this. Your thoughts?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,797 posts)
4. You could edit, since the first claim was that he invited himself.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:36 PM
Apr 2016

As far as The View interview is concerned, it's possible that a staffer was confused and interpreted the Vatican invite as a meeting with the Pope and told Bernie he would be meeting with him. No idea. I don't think Bernie would knowingly lie about something that could be so easily disproved.

Response to Old Crow (Reply #3)

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
7. Thank you. I appreciate your thoughts.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

I altered the title, per The Ocelot's suggestion (thank you, Ocelot!). I'm hoping this works better now.

 

RepubliCON-Watch

(559 posts)
2. Even if the Pope himself may not be there...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:31 PM
Apr 2016

It speaks volumes that Bernie has a part in improving the world. He's representing the US on a global stage!

Response to Old Crow (Original post)

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
8. Maybe you should edit your subject, so the misinformation doesn't...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

... get propogated among people who don't read the thread?

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
10. We should flag ourselves as a Sanders and Hillary...
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

.... supporter having a decent conversation.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
12. Awww! I like that idea.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

Honestly, one of the best parts of participating on DU is when you are able to have agreeable conversations with those with whom you disagree.

For the record, I'll vote for Hillary if she's the nominee. I would much prefer Bernie, but I'm willing to unite with fellow Democrats under Hillary, if that's the way things go.

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