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The View and Hillary Clinton declare premature victory, discuss Bill's role in her White House (Original Post) SecularMotion Apr 2016 OP
Hubris will be the downfall of the Oligarchy. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #1
And Hillary Clinton supporters wonder why Bernie supporters might be a bit ornery? longship Apr 2016 #2
Can't stand to watch her Politicalboi Apr 2016 #3
Co-Presidency...Clinton Administration 3! KoKo Apr 2016 #4
Don't start measuring the Drapes just yet zebonaut Apr 2016 #5
I used to be okay with Hillary muktiman Apr 2016 #6
Well Said...and is Judgement over Qualification something Important? KoKo Apr 2016 #7

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. And Hillary Clinton supporters wonder why Bernie supporters might be a bit ornery?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:05 PM
Apr 2016

This is why!

The sense of entitlement!

It's MY turn!

Abject hubris is why.

We see it here, too.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
4. Co-Presidency...Clinton Administration 3!
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:53 PM
Apr 2016

even though she doesn't answer how Bill will bring those jobs...

But, there it is. "Clinton Family Dynasty" and, Bill should be asked to be on "The View" and other media outlets to explain his role. Will he still be involved with the Clinton Global Initiative?

muktiman

(19 posts)
6. I used to be okay with Hillary
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 05:48 PM
Apr 2016

I used to like Hillary just fine but the more I see her the less and less I like what I am seeing.

Her resume is fine, but what did she do with her privileged position of power.

Iraq vote - bad judgment
Libya regime change - bad judgment
Syria regime change - bad judgment
Supporting Honduras regime by military coup - bad judgment and likely illegal too
Pay to play Clinton foundation - bad judgment (Saudi Arabia military sale - others?)
Millions and millions in speaking to oligarchs (un indicted criminals) - bad judgment
Not releasing transcripts of speeches to Oligarchs - bad judgment
Support every "Free" Trade deal for decades - bad judgment
Super-Predator crime bill supporting prison industrial complex - bad judgment
Hillary saber rattling against Iran - bad judgment - actually provocative, not constructive for peace, imho

Very late in arriving to oppose TPP - bad judgment (looks like an opportunistic shift to me)
Late coming to gay marriage - bad judgment

And now the dirty tricks campaign is back again. I especially detest the mugging by the Hillary surrogate Daily News, now all over the propaganda press that somehow Senator Sanders is not qualified/prepared for the job!
A dishonest and detestable hit job, Daily "News" conflating the Treasury with the FED to make Senator Sanders reasoned response look like something that is is not. All at Hilary's direction - very bad judgment, actually turns my stomach.

Look, Trump is on the left of Hillary on 4 very important issues:
Trump says he is for single payer, Hillary, not so much
Trump says he is against so called "free trade" deals - bad judgment Hillary is all for them.
Trump says he is for a "balanced approach" to Israel and Palestinians - Hillary, not so much.
Trump says is not for the military interventions of empire - Hillary, I think she has been for all of them.

Hillary is pals with Netanyahu - very bad judgment
Hillary is also pals with Kissinger - really kissinger? - Bad judgment

Don't get me wrong, I despise Trump and everything he stands for. He would be an unmitigated disaster for the country, so would a Ted Cruz Presidency for that matter, but on some very important issues Trump tracks left of Hillary! That will not be good for a match up in November, just sayin.

Her resume is pretty impressive, her judgment, not so much

I don't know if Hillary is qualified to be President, the people will have to decide that.
But I'm just not yet convinced she is qualified to get my vote!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. Well Said...and is Judgement over Qualification something Important?
Thu Apr 14, 2016, 07:54 PM
Apr 2016

I think most Bernie supporters Feel it Is! Hillary has such a documented record of poor judgement. And Bill with NAFTA passage,his Deregulation Policy and Caveing "Time after Time" to Neolib and Wall Street Influence will make a team that will take America back into the mire that they and Bush helped put us into in the first place.

It will be a "Step Back in Time!" Do we want to move Back or Go Forward with Bernie who sees all the mistakes and wants to Correct them. Or with "Clinton Administration 3,": who have NEVER apologized for their Policies that helped drive the Middle Class and Poor into the ground, but instead,..want to continue their promise of HOPE when Nothing Backs them Up given their Track Record.

Why would anyone believe them, given their track record policies that Bush II continued and Obama kept a thumb on but we continued the steady downfall of America's Middle Class and Poor?

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