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cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
1. When We Stand Together - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 07:58 AM
Apr 2016

eom

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
2. The reason we don't have Medicare For All is because the insurance industry
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:29 AM
Apr 2016

receives a huge cut of free money. The insurance industry then invests a portion of this windfall in the political process to maintain the profitable status quo. The medical services industry and the pharmaceutical industries are similarly overcompensated for the service they provide.

It is radical that the American people pay 17% of the GDP for health care and get less for their dollar than any developed nation.

Leading up to enacting the ACA discussing single payer was verboten. The only reason for that was to suppress information that the best solution was not in maintaining private insurance but in eliminating private health insurance altogether.

The American people should be screaming at the top of their lungs for single payer. Single payer would save the average consumer thousands a year. This remains true no matter how many paid internet liars they throw at us.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
3. I tried to start those conversation last week
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:36 AM
Apr 2016

And I was stuffed,insulted and ridiculed by poster right here on this site. Why can't , I asked the American people sue our government to open medicare to all ? Many people have been harmed by this horrible system we suffer under. Many businesses have been harmed. Hospitals have been harmed. People have suffered and died because of this archaic antiquated rippoff. While just a few billionaires and their millionaire minions prosper. Very few people prosper u nxer this shitty system.
Medicare already exists. All the offices and infustructure exists. How are we going to end this national nightmare? We should be rioting in the streets.

I met a man who told me last week that because his company switched insurance coverage there was a lapse. So he paid a 250 penalty on his taxes. How can he get satisfaction tion ?why can't he sue the IRS the Federal government ? Why is there not 200 million people involved in a class a tion lawsuit to open medicare to all Americans.
I think that if they make a law saying we all have to buy health insurance they should have to provide us with an alternative to the private market.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
5. Excellent questions. Why should anyone have to go
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:05 AM
Apr 2016

without health care because they simply cannot afford the premiums, deductibles, and co-pays of the predatory insurance industry, and then get hit with the added indignity of a tax penalty? Each person's situation is different.

My daughter works for a small 10 person firm that doesn't offer coverage at all. Instead they somehow skirt the law by paying a $250.00 quarterly stipend that is supposed to help the employee buy coverage. It's a joke. My daughter is 23 and thankfully still eligible to be covered under my husband's plan at work -- one of the few decent benefits of the ACA. If she's still with her current employer when she turns 26, she'll be in deep shit. She makes just over the line to qualify for a subsidy and yet will not be able to afford anything but the crappiest high deductible, high copay, exorbitant premium useless plan or else face a penalty for going without. What a crock.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
6. "You cannot reason people out of a position which they have not been reasoned into"
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:08 AM
Apr 2016

they've got two of those monkeys down pat - see no evil, hear no evil



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