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Related: About this forumVoter Suppression Screwed Bernie, and Will Screw Dems in November if Left Unchecked
Americas Lawyer, Mike Papantonio, appears on RTs Redacted Tonight with Lee Camp to discuss the voter suppression tactics that have been at play in the past couple of months, and the impact it has had for both the Bernie Sanders campaign and democracy in general.
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)happening for the benefit of their candidate.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)t.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)This is a primary, it is not an election, know the two are different.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)In a private booth without interference?
I'll take a primary over a caucus, every time.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)she got than Bernie. You can't have it both ways so which is it? I wish there was never any caucuses. But that's up to each state, not any candidates.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)How about a compromise:
Closed primaries, by popular vote in all states.
In all states, registration as a Democrat doesn't close until 30 days before the Primary.
Nobody who was registered as a Republican during the last Primary may register as a Democrat (prior Democrats, Independents, and 3rd party only)
Super delegates ONLY come into play if no single candidate gets the majority of pledged delegates.
Provisional ballots count automatically unless the board of elections can't prove ineligibility (put the onus on the board of elections to prove it instead of voter).
These provisions don't take effect until after the 2020 election. That way it can't be tied to any benefit to Clinton or any existing/potential candidates.
appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)And it will happen again, big time in the November general election. The voter and election corruption has been evident since 2000 at least. DEMOCRATS have been in power since 2009; what have they done about it, which mainly impacts the formerly known Party of the 'BIG TENT'?
"Redacted Tonight", Fri. Nights 8 PM on RT, rt.com & YouTube. - Host LEE CAMP with guest journalist GREG PALAST.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)She is a repub.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I also believe they will continue to manipulate for Clinton. Goldman-Sachs, Citibank, Wall Street and the Koch Bros are "pulling" for Clinton.
Jackilope
(819 posts)Loyalty oaths and brow furrowing over Bernie or Bust movement are useless shame tactics that ignore the fix is in. Create an growing smd gigantic outside movement that challenges all the corruption is only way to move ahead.
msongs
(67,413 posts)mac56
(17,569 posts)No concern about voter suppression?
Just another opportunity to mock Sanders?
Joking, I'm sure.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)In Arizona the county with the reduced polling places was heavily Hispanic, a group hat voted heavily for Hillary.
And in NY there is no evidence that the Rethug, six months ahead of time, was able to target and purge Bernie voters in different buildings across Brooklyn.
xloadiex
(628 posts)call for an end of mass voter suppression.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/35846-members-of-congress-call-for-end-to-mass-voter-suppression-and-insecure-elections
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Look at states like mine here in RI.... It was the Democrats doing it.
We'll be fine in that regard. The people it has been benefiting will continue to benefit
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Off the charts.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)seemed to work in his favor.
modestybl
(458 posts)...except when Harry Reid has his casino boss buddies flood them with employees that weren't required to register.
AZ was a particularly egregious example that obviously hurt Sanders... same day voting in Maricopa county less than a third of what it was in 2008.
Closed primaries favor the incumbents and the party regulars... open primaries favor people new to the process, younger voters.
But the Dem leadership would prefer to keep their seats safe, even if the Dems are in the minority, than get primaried out and see the Dems in the majority.
Had always wondered why the Dem leadership has been so passive on vote suppression and fraud after the 2000 election - what favors Repubs in the general favors them in the primaries.
mac56
(17,569 posts)Word.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)They want an excuse so that they can make weak sauce attempts at financial reform, or protecting social programs, and then throw up their hands and say...."hey we tried". So they have no problem with the GOP making sure they retain at least one even two branches. There can be no other explanation. Otherwise why would they be sitting on their hands since 2000 and doing nothing about provable vulnerabilities in many voting systems.
DamnYankeeInHouston
(1,365 posts)This is even more heart breaking since we have an exceptional, once-in-a-lifetime candidate.