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Bernie Sanders vs Hillary Clinton on Climate Change (Original Post) Bernie93 May 2016 OP
Go to 2:55. forest444 May 2016 #1
This is, indeed, what is at stake. nt Rebkeh May 2016 #2
What can I say? Corporate Socialism vs Democratic Socialism, choose. Kip Humphrey May 2016 #3
Hillary will refuse to do the right thing fearing... Herman4747 May 2016 #4
A most excellent video! Uncle Joe May 2016 #5
K & R !!! Thespian2 May 2016 #6
We're probably fucked either way but at least Bernie is on the side of right. Enthusiast May 2016 #8
Yep Thespian2 May 2016 #12
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast May 2016 #7
There isn't much difference between them creeksneakers2 May 2016 #9
When you aim only for what you think, in the present moment, is 'politically feasible' . . . markpkessinger May 2016 #10
Wow! A great argument! longship May 2016 #11
 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
4. Hillary will refuse to do the right thing fearing...
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:06 PM
May 2016

...that by doing the right thing she will lose votes in 2020.
Winning and keeping the presidency are all that matter, the health of the earth is of secondary importance.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
8. We're probably fucked either way but at least Bernie is on the side of right.
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:56 PM
May 2016

At least go down fighting. Corporate rule is not getting it.

creeksneakers2

(7,473 posts)
9. There isn't much difference between them
Sun May 1, 2016, 11:31 PM
May 2016

especially when you get down to what is actually politically feasible.

From the New York debate:

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- jobs are one thing, but with less than 6 percent of all U.S. energy coming from solar, wind and geothermal, and 20 percent of U.S. power coming from nuclear, if you phase out all of that, how do you make up...
SANDERS: Well, you don't phase...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- that difference?
SANDERS: -- it all out tomorrow. And you certainly don't phase nuclear out tomorrow. But this is what you do do.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: What you do do is say that we are going to have a massive program -- and I had introduced -- introduced legislation for 10 million solar rooftops. We can put probably millions of people to work retrofitting and weatherizing buildings all over this country.
(CHEERING)
SANDERS: Saving -- rebuilding our rail system.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: Our mass transit system.
(APPLAUSE)
SANDERS: If we approach this, Errol, as if we were literally at a war -- you know, in 1941, under Franklin Delano Roosevelt, we moved within three years, within three more years to rebuild our economy to defeat Nazism and Japanese imperialism. That is exactly the kind of approach we need right now.

Hillary's proposal on climate change:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/climate/

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
10. When you aim only for what you think, in the present moment, is 'politically feasible' . . .
Sun May 1, 2016, 11:52 PM
May 2016

. . . you can rest assured that what you wind up with will fall considerably far short even of that.

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