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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:45 AM May 2016

Democratic Buyer’s Remorse: Hillary’s Poll Numbers Against Trump Keep Dropping



There have been a lot of polls that have come out recently, and they all have one thing in common: Hillary Clinton is in trouble. Donald Trump is beating her in many general election match-ups, and it only looks like it’s going to get worse. Shouldn’t this scare us a little bit? Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this.
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Democratic Buyer’s Remorse: Hillary’s Poll Numbers Against Trump Keep Dropping (Original Post) GoLeft TV May 2016 OP
Great news!111! DUers have conclusively proven that Hillary's poor poll performance against merrily May 2016 #1
Funny how that works. I remember when Hill's polls meant EVERYTHING to her fans 99th_Monkey May 2016 #11
Yeah, I know. There is, however, a difference in the two kinds of polls. However, at this stage, merrily May 2016 #16
Hillary will lose to Trump. Chaos will reign in the streets. It won't be pretty. zebonaut May 2016 #2
If only someone could have predicted this. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #3
+1 merrily May 2016 #17
If she loses it will be because zeemike May 2016 #4
So do you think the change that an idiot like Trump is promoting will be attractive to independents samsingh May 2016 #5
No, I don't think indies will go to Trump ybbor May 2016 #6
Many will vote like me... Thespian2 May 2016 #8
I expect the Greens will get more votes in November than any 3rd party in our history. JudyM May 2016 #23
Well when faced with two unacceptable outcomes. zeemike May 2016 #10
Exactly . . . markpkessinger May 2016 #13
Right now she is losing independents donnasgirl May 2016 #15
Apparently, only donors and media flocked to Jeb. The GOP did not put its thumb on the scale. merrily May 2016 #18
You are right it is hard to tell zeemike May 2016 #19
No, he is predictably progressive- he's not a phony progressive Baobab May 2016 #20
Yep, and that is what scares them. zeemike May 2016 #21
Rec. pa28 May 2016 #7
It's axiomatic: The more voters learn about Hillary, the less they like her, period 99th_Monkey May 2016 #9
HILLARY SUPPORTERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS... Herman4747 May 2016 #12
K & R nt findrskeep May 2016 #14
Bernie's Fault!!!!1111 MillennialDem May 2016 #22

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Great news!111! DUers have conclusively proven that Hillary's poor poll performance against
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:49 AM
May 2016

Trump means absolutely nothing.

Trouble is, it has been her consistent pattern to start high in polls, then go down, even just during her book tour.

But, don't worry about that. There will be plenty of time to fix it in December.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
11. Funny how that works. I remember when Hill's polls meant EVERYTHING to her fans
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:47 PM
May 2016

but only until Bernie caught up with her, then ... meh.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
16. Yeah, I know. There is, however, a difference in the two kinds of polls. However, at this stage,
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:20 PM
May 2016

when people think the two nominees have been chosen, the objection to "head to a head" poll makes less sense than objecting to them early on. Moreover, head to head polls are the ONLY indication of what might happen in the general before the convention.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
4. If she loses it will be because
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:09 PM
May 2016

People want change...the independents want change. And Hillary represents the establishment like none other...the dynasty problem.

The GOP should have been a clue...Jeb who was the equivalent of Hillary lost badly and dropped out.
And the only one who did well was the outsider...who has never held a political office.

Too bad we did not get the message.

samsingh

(17,599 posts)
5. So do you think the change that an idiot like Trump is promoting will be attractive to independents
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:15 PM
May 2016

or those on the extreme left?

Change for its own sake?

ybbor

(1,554 posts)
6. No, I don't think indies will go to Trump
Mon May 23, 2016, 12:33 PM
May 2016

But I do think a lot will vote third party, or stay home.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
8. Many will vote like me...
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:34 PM
May 2016

for the next best person, after Bernie, in the election...Dr. Jill Stein...

She also represents change...the other two candidates will continue the rule of the Oligarchs...

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
10. Well when faced with two unacceptable outcomes.
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:46 PM
May 2016

Sometimes a person will press the destruct button...because it seems like the only real choice you have.
It don't mean they like it, it just means change is better than continuation of the same thing you want to get rid of.

History if full of it.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
13. Exactly . . .
Mon May 23, 2016, 04:55 PM
May 2016

. . . when asked to choose between dying instantly in a car that hits a brick wall at 90mph, and being in a car that does a slow roll down an embankment, resulting in multiple, painful, but not immediately fatal, injuries, then dying while waiting for help that never arrives, some will opt to put their own foot on the accelerator!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
18. Apparently, only donors and media flocked to Jeb. The GOP did not put its thumb on the scale.
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:23 PM
May 2016

Maybe that will happen next time, or maybe they will see how furious Democrats are at DWS and the undemocratic institution of super delegates and let the people decide. Hard to tell.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
19. You are right it is hard to tell
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:03 PM
May 2016

But it may not matter at all which Republican wins...they can count on them all to "do the right thing".

And so Hillary as POTUS is no great threat because they can count on her too...especially if war is their next goal because as a woman she will have to prove she can be a war president, much like Thatcher.

The only real threat to the status quo is Sanders...he is too unpredictable for the PTB.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
9. It's axiomatic: The more voters learn about Hillary, the less they like her, period
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:38 PM
May 2016

if the Dem primaries haven't taught us anything, they've taught us that.

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