New NBC/WSJ POLL: Clinton 19%, Trump 35% On Honest, Straightforward

[appalachiablue]

MSNBC's Steve Kornacki explained the new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll findings on Thursday showing that 19% of voters find Clinton honest and straightforward. Voters also chose 'not trustworthy,' 'liar' & 'scandals' in association with the Democratic presidential candidate. The info. could be difficult Kornacki said, as Clinton competes with Sen. Bernie Sanders in the primary and also confronts Donald Trump, the presumed GOP general nominee. Pub. May 26.

[Land of Enchantment]

1. The ship is slowly taking on water....nt

[dubyadiprecession]

2. Why can't you see BS's ship is sinking?..

His ship is sinking.

[Chasstev365]

7. I KNOW YOU ARE, BUT WHAT AM I?

That is your mentality. Can't you ever objectively see that Hillary is not a very good candidate? The post wasn't talking about Bernie; it was showing Hillary maybe weak against Trump!

[Ned_Devine]

8. Where's the sarcasm thingy?

[840high]

23. Her ship will sink more

and more in the coming weeks. No one wants a lying leader.

[grasswire]

3. Soon the rats will be running down the ropes.

We warned everyone.

[Chicago1980]

11. Oh please with your warnings...

You all didn't have enough votes and you believe and perpetuate the same talking points as the republicans.

[grasswire]

12. It's comforting to be on the right side of history again.

Although I wish it would all just go away and we could have a drama free election.

[Chicago1980]

13. Yes it is,

And I wish it would too, but it's seemingly the dirty that gets the media and publics attention.

[mudstump]

17. and, you aren't going to have enough votes in the general....but,..

you won't be able to EVER say that you and the democratic party weren't warned. The party will have to live with their preferred candidate as they ignore millions of voters willing to cast their vote. The party is turning voters away and it won't bode well in November.

[Chicago1980]

18. You Bernie didn't have enough votes for the primary to make it to the general.

Perhaps he and his followers didn't do a good enough job.

There's also the fact that a higher percentage of Sanders supporters would vote for Clinton than what Clinton voters said would vote fr Obama back in 2008.

Millions of voters weren't ignored, it just happens to be the case that the candidate that has millions of more votes wins.

That's how it goes and being a sore loser about that isn't very becoming.

The party's rules and procedure isn't any different in this election than it was in 2012 or 2008 or 2004, etc...

[ReRe]

25. Whose the sore looser?

As for that last line... voters learned more this year on rules and procedures than they EVER have. I have an idea that elections will be changed for the good in the not-too-distant-future just because of what we learned in this 2016 general election cycle.

[Chicago1980]

28. Get rid of the caucuses for one.

[840high]

24. We don't have an FBI investigation.

[tomm2thumbs]

4. you can't fake honesty and trustworthiness

try as you may...

[appalachiablue]

6. True and these are critical human characteristics, especially for a president.

[tomm2thumbs]

5. D E V A S T A T I N G... number for a Democratic Party member to be considered dishonest

by so many, and so consistently throughout the years

this is not new, and when confronted with old-dishonesty and new-dishonesty, who do you think voters are going to prefer? They'll take a risk with the new one, because they know about the old one already

I think this is especially true for independents and likely even Democrats on the fence about her as a politician and effective bringer of real, purposeful change

______

Senator Sanders is the only one who brings honesty to the table at a time when honesty is most important

[roguevalley]

35. more people trust Trump than her. He beats here there too by 16 points. she's over. its only time

[JDPriestly]

39. What amazes me is that that number has to include many who voted for her.

16 points for dishonesty yet people voted for her.

Incomprehensible to me.

[tomm2thumbs]

15. they need to open their eyes - and FAST

The Republican Party set a primary turnout record – 28 million votes with 5 states left, which is 136% of the record high voter turnout in 2008.

Being 'equally-untrustworthy' is not a motivation to support Clinton in the general, and Independents in a change-election are likely going to be more willing to try something new out when compared to someone promising no big changes, and who has huge unfavorables.

One current look at who is bringing out the crowds on either side will tell you who is NOT going to be bringing out the crowds this summer... not by a long shot

[zeemike]

16. No they have their own lifeboats.

It is only the little people in steerage that go down with the ship.

They will get a board of directors on a corporation and make some real money, and spend more time with their families.

[SammyWinstonJack]

32. Hillary or trump..it's a win-win for the Establishment.

[Darb]

43. "than", not "then"

Make your ridiculous claims with the correct use of the English language.

[rpannier]

10. Il Douche is pretty straightforward

Like me, after 6 sojus, 6 beers and 5 Jack Daniels
The line looks pretty straight then

[mudstump]

14. I have a sinking feeling that the democrats are picking the wrong candidate.

[ReRe]

27. And which...

...Democrats will choose the wrong candidate?

[jalan48]

19. Very sad-what's wrong with the Democratic Party?

Is Hillary the best the Democratic Establishment has to offer?

[robx]

20. Does this matter?

Clinton 12,989,134
Sanders 9,957,889

Clinton +3,031,245

Seems like it should.

[robx]

45. I think votes are an expression of opinion

19% out of how many people? I worry about sample size and bias and media hype.

The sample size here is quite large.

Clinton 12,989,134
Sanders 9,957,889
Clinton +3,031,245

We do need to shift to prepare for the general election.

In 13 days or less, I hope we will all be pulling together.

[roguevalley]

47. they don't matter because some were from fixed contests

[chwaliszewski]

37. I love it when these numbers are posted.

Like it's an honest and complete representation of the actual number of people who wanted to vote. There were MANY that didn't get to vote because they didn't register in time or their party affiliation had magically switched, making them ineligible to vote, or the ones who voted early but decided they like Sanders better after the fact. If that many more people prefer Hillary, according to the numbers you posted, and many people don't like Trump, then November should be a breeze. I guess you have nothing to worry about, then. Not even Bernie's last stand in Cali. So just kick your feet up and relax; nothing to worry about here.

[hay rick]

38. Welcome to the payroll.

I mean welcome to DU.

[JDPriestly]

40. Are you including the number of people who voted in the caucuses for each candidate?

Because if you are not, those numbers are not accurate. They are not honest.

[robx]

44. Yes. Caucus voters are included. Voter turnout for caucuses is very low.

My hypothesis is that caucuses are not very democratic.

Many working people with jobs or caring for children cannot afford the time to participate. They are too busy surviving. This disenfranchises citizens that need their voices heard.

For evidence, I have looked participation rates between caucuses and primaries. I have also looked at the Washington that has both a caucus and a primary? I think the difference in voter turnout and the reversal of the winner supports my hypothesis.

That said, in a democracy it seems the person with the most votes should win.

Clinton 12,989,134
Sanders 9,957,889
Clinton +3,031,245

[JDPriestly]

46. True, but this is a primary, and the likelihood of success in the general election should

also be a serious consideration. Hillary's e-mail problems will be outrageously exploited by Republicans should Hillary be the candidate.

Democrats are afraid of Bernie's democratic socialism tag. They shouldn't be. We are entering an economy that will be totally different in terms of the role of jobs and work than our current economy. We did this at the beginning and during the industrial revolution. The relationship between work and society will place our current beliefs about the role of work in our lives and society obsolete and democratic socialism will be accepted as the only way we can live.

That's just the way it is.

[TheBlackAdder]

21. To achieve numbers that low, many Clinton supporters must also harbor those beliefs.

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There is a subset of people who aren't Siths, there the opposing candidates always score low values.


Many people see the nuances and accept that while someone is not their favorite, they can accept positives about them.


Therefore, while some Trump and Sanders supporters might not favor Vlinton, they might veiw certain traits in a positive manner. Just like there are some Clinton and Sanders supports who know Trump is a nut, but still like certain aspects of him. That said, to achieve a 19% level, indicates that many Democrats, inclusing Clinton Primary supporters hold those beliefs.


This is not good.


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[Logical]

22. Wow, that is scary

[oldandhappy]

26. well that was funny

You get both clinton and trump re trustworthy -- the 19 and 35 thing -- but with the word cloud all you got was clinton. The trump word cloud was pushed right off. So much for reporting!! Even with a negative the clinton network keeps their focus.

[Delver Rootnose]

29. And of a nation with ....

.....50 million + people eligible to be president these are the best we can come up with? Hillary and trump. Jeeeze I weep for the future.

[BillZBubb]

31. The 19% are the most gullible or uninformed people in the country.

[wisteria]

33. I don't think much of these polls right now, actually I ignore them

When Bernie finally gets out and we move to the General Election, then The numbers will change and Clinton will be in great shape.

[roguevalley]

36. you better think about those numbers because unless they triple in a good way she loses.

[Akbar]

34. Makes Perfect Sense to Me

When I was staring down the barrel of a gun and the guy was telling me if I did't turn over my wallet and my phone or he'd blow me away, he was at least 90 percent credible to me.

[BlueStreak]

41. There is now about a +10% spread for Sanders in the match-ups

See http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

This is no longer a close call. Hillary is basically even with Trump in the match-up and falling fast.

Sanders beats Trump by about 10% and beats him in EVERY recent poll.

This is becoming a no-brainer, and the party seems to have no brains.

Those super-delegates had better get wise in a hurry.

[appalachiablue]

42. Agree with the reality, supers get your minds right, fast!