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#AskROF: Sanders is 74. Is it likely that this is his only shot at the White House? Can he afford to wait eight years if no 3rd party run? Farron Cousins answers this on Ring of Fire TV.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)it's viable.
Otherwise, speculating this far out is dumb and pointless.
I'm looking forward to the day in the not-to-distant future when candidates seriously start their campaigns eight or twelve years in advance of the election they intend to run in.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Oh, and btw, she wants to make America great again.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)see that TV ad at some point.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Will you ever participate in a discussion, "member"?
Wibly
(613 posts)No.
But a 2016 Indpendent run is certainly viable, with or without the DNCs support.
He would win!
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)If there is a way he can get on the ballot in every state he should do it. It would be a landslide victory.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Independent candidates have to petition their way onto the ballot in every state they want to run in. In this case, that's all fifty. If Bernie would have wanted to get on the ballot in Texas, he would have needed petitions with roughly 70,000 signatures of registered voters on them by the fifth of May. It is currently the 27th. If he really wanted to run for president as an independent, he would have had to start gathering signatures last year.
Wibly
(613 posts)Can you cite where this rule is written please?
I think you're talking about the primaries, not the General Election.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Scroll toward the bottom and you'll find the independent-candidate petition deadlines. It lists Rhode Island's as being September 9, and a lot of states have deadlines in July and August. No primary in America is that late.
We know Bernie intends to stay in the Democratic primary until the convention. Its last day is July 28. Let's assume Bernie's people can petition their asses off and get the signatures he needs within a week of the Democratic convention's closing gavel - that date is August 4. Given that, here are the states he will have to forego expecting ballot access to, their closing dates and the number of electors in each.
May 9
Texas (38)
June 9
North Carolina (15)
June 27
Illinois (20)
June 30
Indiana (11)
July 15
South Carolina (9)
Georgia (16)
Delaware (3)
Florida (29)
Oklahoma (7)
July 21
Michigan (16)
July 23
Washington (12)
August 1
Arkansas (6)
Kansas (6)
New Jersey (14)
West Virginia (5)
Pennsylvania (20)
Maine (4)
Maryland (10)
Vermont (3)
August 2
Massachusetts (11)
South Dakota (3)
Wisconsin (10)
Total: 268 electors
The states he CAN run in, if he were to gain ballot access in all of them, have exactly 270 electors. To win the presidency if he started collecting signatures the day after the convention, he would have to win Idaho, Utah and Alaska - which he would NOT do.
Sorry Wibly, but the only possible reason he could have for launching an independent run after surrendering at the convention is because he wants Donald Trump to be president.
Wibly
(613 posts)That last line is pure nonsense. No way Sanders wants Trump to be President.
And you still have not provided a verifiable link to your claims.
I wonder why.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Texas: http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/candidates/guide/president.shtml
North Carolina: http://www.ncsbe.gov/Portals/0/FilesP/filing_facts_president_2016.pdf
Illinois: https://www.elections.il.gov/Downloads/ElectionInformation/PDF/2016Pres_DelegateGuide.pdf
Indiana: http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/files/2016_Candidate_Guide_Complete.pdf
South Carolina: http://scvotes.org/files/2016%20Election%20Calendar%202016-02-24.pdf
Georgia: http://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/2016_election_dates (this is actually July 12, not July 15)
Delaware: http://elections.delaware.gov/calendar/2016ElectionCalendar.pdf
Florida: http://dos.myflorida.com/media/695026/elections-calendar-2015-2017.pdf
Oklahoma: https://www.ok.gov/elections/documents/General%20Election%20for%20President%20of%20the%20United%20States.pdf
Michigan: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/2016_Ballot_Access_Information_for_Presidential_Candidates_487894_7.pdf
Since the first ten dates in the Ballotpedia link are correct, I will go out on a limb and say the other twelve also are. And if Sanders doesn't want Trump to be president, how come he's double-teaming Hillary?
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)who not only is electable but also capable of helping to carry out the Presidents agenda which would give them experience and visibility for the 2020 election.
I don't think either Hillary or Bernie would guarantee a 2020 run.
bsanders220
(1 post)Sanders is exactly what the United States needs as a leader. If elected, he would be a major factor in helping the country to become more developed and civilized. Sadly, the establishment won't allow him to win. In any case, I wish him lots of luck with his campaign.
ruclueless2
(2 posts)I truthfully believe that Bernie can best serve the Country by not being burdened with the office of POTUS. I personally like the man.
I'm a VET and because of him and his bipartisan union with John McCain, the Veterans' Choice Program was established. This Program provides outside medical coverage for Vets if VA cannot initially address situations within 30 days. I have always been Progressive. Being so does not mean that I believe in giving anything away. A "Free Education" does not remove responsibility from students. The other countries require that students acceptably complete courses, and avoid dragging out a college education with unnecessary courses. I foresee a definite change in Congress. Republicans know this and are scared to death of this fact. Let's hope that Hillary utilizes Bernie in her Administration.