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GoLeft TV

(3,910 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:46 PM May 2016

Is A 2020 White House Run For Sanders Viable?



#AskROF: “Sanders is 74. Is it likely that this is his only shot at the White House? Can he afford to wait eight years if no 3rd party run?” Farron Cousins answers this on Ring of Fire TV.
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Is A 2020 White House Run For Sanders Viable? (Original Post) GoLeft TV May 2016 OP
If he's running for re-election SheilaT May 2016 #1
"This is our new baby Sammi, and she would like your vote when she is 40". Thank you. jtuck004 May 2016 #4
LOL! I'm sure we'll SheilaT May 2016 #7
No. OilemFirchen May 2016 #2
To answer the posed question Wibly May 2016 #3
I agree. NorthCarolina May 2016 #8
He's too late to launch an independent run jmowreader May 2016 #10
Citation please Wibly Jun 2016 #11
The citation is that link jmowreader Jun 2016 #12
Not a verifiable link Wibly Jun 2016 #13
Okay, try these unverifiable links jmowreader Jun 2016 #14
Later. He's busy with this one.n/t jtuck004 May 2016 #5
Or is 2016 a good time for Bernie to run for President? 2016. Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #6
Who cares? All of our candidates need to select a young VP jwirr May 2016 #9
I really hope so bsanders220 Jun 2016 #15
I really hope so too! ruclueless2 Jun 2016 #16
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
1. If he's running for re-election
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:08 PM
May 2016

it's viable.

Otherwise, speculating this far out is dumb and pointless.

I'm looking forward to the day in the not-to-distant future when candidates seriously start their campaigns eight or twelve years in advance of the election they intend to run in.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
4. "This is our new baby Sammi, and she would like your vote when she is 40". Thank you.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:17 PM
May 2016

Oh, and btw, she wants to make America great again.

Wibly

(613 posts)
3. To answer the posed question
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016

No.
But a 2016 Indpendent run is certainly viable, with or without the DNCs support.
He would win!

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
8. I agree.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:50 PM
May 2016

If there is a way he can get on the ballot in every state he should do it. It would be a landslide victory.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
10. He's too late to launch an independent run
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:04 AM
May 2016
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates

Independent candidates have to petition their way onto the ballot in every state they want to run in. In this case, that's all fifty. If Bernie would have wanted to get on the ballot in Texas, he would have needed petitions with roughly 70,000 signatures of registered voters on them by the fifth of May. It is currently the 27th. If he really wanted to run for president as an independent, he would have had to start gathering signatures last year.

Wibly

(613 posts)
11. Citation please
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:25 PM
Jun 2016

Can you cite where this rule is written please?
I think you're talking about the primaries, not the General Election.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
12. The citation is that link
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:26 PM
Jun 2016

Scroll toward the bottom and you'll find the independent-candidate petition deadlines. It lists Rhode Island's as being September 9, and a lot of states have deadlines in July and August. No primary in America is that late.

We know Bernie intends to stay in the Democratic primary until the convention. Its last day is July 28. Let's assume Bernie's people can petition their asses off and get the signatures he needs within a week of the Democratic convention's closing gavel - that date is August 4. Given that, here are the states he will have to forego expecting ballot access to, their closing dates and the number of electors in each.

May 9
Texas (38)

June 9
North Carolina (15)

June 27
Illinois (20)

June 30
Indiana (11)

July 15
South Carolina (9)
Georgia (16)
Delaware (3)
Florida (29)
Oklahoma (7)

July 21
Michigan (16)

July 23
Washington (12)

August 1
Arkansas (6)
Kansas (6)
New Jersey (14)
West Virginia (5)
Pennsylvania (20)
Maine (4)
Maryland (10)
Vermont (3)

August 2
Massachusetts (11)
South Dakota (3)
Wisconsin (10)

Total: 268 electors

The states he CAN run in, if he were to gain ballot access in all of them, have exactly 270 electors. To win the presidency if he started collecting signatures the day after the convention, he would have to win Idaho, Utah and Alaska - which he would NOT do.

Sorry Wibly, but the only possible reason he could have for launching an independent run after surrendering at the convention is because he wants Donald Trump to be president.

Wibly

(613 posts)
13. Not a verifiable link
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jun 2016

That last line is pure nonsense. No way Sanders wants Trump to be President.
And you still have not provided a verifiable link to your claims.
I wonder why.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
14. Okay, try these unverifiable links
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jun 2016

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
9. Who cares? All of our candidates need to select a young VP
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016

who not only is electable but also capable of helping to carry out the Presidents agenda which would give them experience and visibility for the 2020 election.

I don't think either Hillary or Bernie would guarantee a 2020 run.

 

bsanders220

(1 post)
15. I really hope so
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jun 2016

Sanders is exactly what the United States needs as a leader. If elected, he would be a major factor in helping the country to become more developed and civilized. Sadly, the establishment won't allow him to win. In any case, I wish him lots of luck with his campaign.

ruclueless2

(2 posts)
16. I really hope so too!
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jun 2016

I truthfully believe that Bernie can best serve the Country by not being burdened with the office of POTUS. I personally like the man.
I'm a VET and because of him and his bipartisan union with John McCain, the Veterans' Choice Program was established. This Program provides outside medical coverage for Vets if VA cannot initially address situations within 30 days. I have always been Progressive. Being so does not mean that I believe in giving anything away. A "Free Education" does not remove responsibility from students. The other countries require that students acceptably complete courses, and avoid dragging out a college education with unnecessary courses. I foresee a definite change in Congress. Republicans know this and are scared to death of this fact. Let's hope that Hillary utilizes Bernie in her Administration.

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