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zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:46 PM May 2016

This Vid cannot be posted enough times -why Trump will Crush Hillary!

Last edited Tue May 31, 2016, 09:47 AM - Edit history (2)

Don't underestimate Trump; He has a more powerful personality than Hillary and will Defeat her; unless the Democrats nominate Sanders. It's often not the issues; but the personalities.
Watch for yourself:



Watch the Trump Chamelion actually turn "Progressive" to Beat Hillary
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This Vid cannot be posted enough times -why Trump will Crush Hillary! (Original Post) zebonaut May 2016 OP
K&R emsimon33 May 2016 #1
He won 40% of the Rethug vote -- the tea party loves him. pnwmom May 2016 #2
Sobering. I wonder about Sanders or any other Democrat too now. PufPuf23 May 2016 #3
Trump is fuckin ASSHOLE who will be SMASHED TO PIECES. RBInMaine May 2016 #18
Trump will be extremely easy for Hillary to beat in the general jmowreader May 2016 #4
What does any of that have to do with GRhodes May 2016 #8
Yes Bernie strength is the issues and he's solid on them. Kablooie May 2016 #9
Bernie is TERRIBLE on the issues jmowreader May 2016 #12
Yeah. You may be right about that. Kablooie May 2016 #13
if you watch the video, there's a part at the end just about this 0rganism May 2016 #22
But will she do that or will she spend the time defending herself from Trumps attacks? Kablooie May 2016 #10
Watch the Trump Chamelion actually turn "Progressive" to Beat Hillary zebonaut May 2016 #14
Sorry... ReRe May 2016 #5
He makes a very persuasive case that Trump will win. Kablooie May 2016 #6
Agree and Biedermann's vid good too skh500 May 2016 #7
"overpowering personality" <-------- EXTREME NARCISSIST Skittles May 2016 #11
Sanders youceyec May 2016 #15
not just trump Locrian May 2016 #16
INSANE NONSENSE from an INSANE poster living in an INSANE universe. RBInMaine May 2016 #17
he talks at a 4th grade level tylerinwa May 2016 #19
as Stephen Hawking says Skittles May 2016 #20
Easy solution to this problem; just Nominate Bernie Sanders; and he'll actually BEAT trump zebonaut May 2016 #21

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
1. K&R
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:00 AM
May 2016

What I have been saying from Day 1.

The Democrats seem to just want to lose these days otherwise why would DWS still be the chair of the DNC?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
2. He won 40% of the Rethug vote -- the tea party loves him.
Mon May 30, 2016, 01:34 AM
May 2016

Most women hate him. Most minorities hate him.

Hillary and the Dems will beat him.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
4. Trump will be extremely easy for Hillary to beat in the general
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:00 AM
May 2016

A simple four-pronged attack will do it.

Prong 1: Turn his perceived strengths into demonstrable weaknesses. Trump is not actually that great of a businessman. He has made a lot of money - but he's lost at least as much. And he's left a shitload of victims behind him...who would be more than happy to get in front of a TV camera and rip Mafia Don's head off.

Prong 2: He doesn't have a "powerful personality." He's a classic schoolyard bully. Once you peel away his shell of assholishness, he's a wimp inside. Hillary will strip it away in the first debate.

Prong 3: Skeletons in the closet: Trump has many, and Hillary knows what they are.

Prong 4: Trump is a dangerous man for this dangerous time. He hates the entire world and they're not all that fond of him. His plan to have Mexico pay for a border wall can only be accomplished by going to war with Mexico, for instance. America can't afford to be a pariah, which we will be under Trump.

All Hillary need do to take the presidency is hold all the states Obama carried in 2012, and I doubt she'll do that badly.

GRhodes

(162 posts)
8. What does any of that have to do with
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:32 AM
May 2016

actual issues? If Sanders were the nominee, he'd focus on issues and so would his supporters, as they have from the beginning. Sick to damn death of identity politics, especially when we have so many fundamental issues we have to address but, with "moderates" like Clinton and jokes like Trump, won't. Also, how will that improve her unfavorables or the fact that she isn't trusted? The fact is that these are the two most disliked major party nominees in history (if they get the nominations) and this election is going to be horribly negative. So, however much people don't like them now, they'll like them less when it is all said and done. Whichever candidate limps to the finish line, they'll have zero political capital.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
9. Yes Bernie strength is the issues and he's solid on them.
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:41 AM
May 2016

This is a better way to fight Trump.
Hillary is much more wishy-washy wash on specific issues.
But even Bernie would have deal with the psychological tricks Trump is expert at and I'm not sure he would be good at deflecting them.
Obama might be able to, he knows how to take charge of a conversation, but he can't run.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
12. Bernie is TERRIBLE on the issues
Mon May 30, 2016, 03:03 AM
May 2016

I think you read the New York Daily News interview. When they tried pinning him down on any of the things he wants to do, the answer was always some form of "I don't know," "I'll have to get back to you on that" or something similar. The easiest one is the Big Bank Breakup he wants. His justification is basically precrime: they MIGHT collapse the economy if they fail, so we have to break them up. That isn't even constitutional, nor does it stand a realistic chance of getting through Congress. He doesn't know how he'd break them up, doesn't know what they'd look like once they were broken up, and has no idea whether the "cure" would be worse than the "disease" - and it would be.

Bernie is good at finding what he sees as problems. He's awful at finding solutions to those problems.

Hillary may not be as good at finding problems as Bernie, but she can come up with reasonable solutions to them.

Trump? That cocksucker created half the problems all by himself!

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
13. Yeah. You may be right about that.
Mon May 30, 2016, 03:18 AM
May 2016

Personally I don't think either Bernie or Hillary have the charisma, wit, and mastery of politics that Obama has. The Democratic candidate could sure use those qualities In this election.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
22. if you watch the video, there's a part at the end just about this
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

there's a whole lot of people who don't vote on issues at all, they vote on image. across party lines, across demographics, they'll vote based on image and perceived character attributes.

DJT is a very skilled manipulator of public perception, hence the idea that he has a big advantage regardless of issues. plus he's following a coherent strategy of self-promotion and targeted branding, whereas HRC is following a "strategy" of self-destruction. thus, the video's author put a $1000 bet on DJT winning the general, despite not planning on voting for DJT himself.

go back to Carter v. Reagan in 1980 -- what the hell did that election have to do with issues, other than the ones Reagan's bunch arranged to take precedence in October? take HRC's damaged brand, mix it with DJT's ability to craft a popular message, and throw in the GOP's dirty tricks apparatus, and there's a real danger that we end up with president Trump next year.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
10. But will she do that or will she spend the time defending herself from Trumps attacks?
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:45 AM
May 2016

She hasn't demonstrated stellar debating skills. She always sounds rehearsed and forced which will not be effective next to Trump.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
6. He makes a very persuasive case that Trump will win.
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:20 AM
May 2016

And I've had that sinking feeling for a long time and also think Hillary is going to lose big time.
I don't want her to lose but the video's that she is reacting instead of a taking charge is right on. We are going to see Trump 50 times as often as Hillary on TV and if her Web site pushes Trumps name around its only more publicity for him.
Even Bernie would have a difficult time with this guy.

Sorry but I'm pretty sure we will be living under President Trump next year.

 

skh500

(21 posts)
7. Agree and Biedermann's vid good too
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:28 AM
May 2016

Yes, agree. His personality is so overpowering that he will walk all over her in a debate.
Plus, Bernie is always polling higher than Hillary when nationally up against Trump.

Speaking of important videos, I am really surprised the following video for Bernie hasn't gone somewhat viral.Really well done by M. Biedermann.


A "Wake Up America" Vid you might say.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
11. "overpowering personality" <-------- EXTREME NARCISSIST
Mon May 30, 2016, 02:46 AM
May 2016

any competent psychiatrist could advise how to squash that insecure little prick like a bug

 

youceyec

(394 posts)
15. Sanders
Mon May 30, 2016, 07:55 AM
May 2016

Is a heartless Communist that wants to use your tax dollars to buy cars for illegal immigrants.

*why Sanders would loose*

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
16. not just trump
Mon May 30, 2016, 08:18 AM
May 2016

the mainstream is asleep at the wheel.

You have trump, running as an outsider and anti-establishment for change - that defeated 16 "establishment" drones. Never mind he's a fraud and will never abandon his class base. He would be the worst in terms of anything for anyone except the rich.

You have Bernie, who came from NOWHERE and made up 60 points as an outsider and anti-establishment for change. And he's the real deal, but he's running on a wave of people waiting for someone like him.

Now you have the feaking libertarian party polling at something like 10%. Again, outsider and anti-establishment for change - who would probably be free market crazies delivering anything but change.

There is more to it than trump. They cannot see that there is a major shift out there that wants something ELSE than business as usual.

And the democrats field the candidate that is probably the most establishment, same-old-same-old in history. With negatives thru the floor. Times are changing and THEY DO NOT GET IT.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
17. INSANE NONSENSE from an INSANE poster living in an INSANE universe.
Mon May 30, 2016, 10:36 AM
May 2016

FrankenTrump will have few to no Black, Latino, Asian, Muslim, or Women voters. HE will be SMASHED good and hard by Clinton and her team, and they have already begun BIGTIME.

tylerinwa

(3 posts)
19. he talks at a 4th grade level
Mon May 30, 2016, 05:00 PM
May 2016

I am so scared that his man may become president.

I think Scott Adams may have something there. I wish the Democrats would get it together. Neo-Liberalism doesn't work.
Trickle down - free trade kills jobs. hellooo?
but most people dont have time to know about all of that.

I saw Scott Adams on Bill Maher and the great charlatan may just win, because he repeats himself
and makes you feel good by saying things you want to hear.


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