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applegrove

(118,674 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:58 PM Jun 2016

WATCH: NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton blames Orlando massacre on GOP “prostituting itself in front o

WATCH: NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton blames Orlando massacre on GOP “prostituting itself in front of the NRA”

by Scott Eric Kaufman at Salon

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/14/watch_nypd_commissioner_bill_bratton_blames_orlando_massacre_on_gop_prostituting_itself_in_front_of_the_nra/

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New York City Police Commissioner Bill Bratton appeared on MSNBC’s Morning Joe Tuesday and had some harsh words for the Republican Congressmen who refuse to enact harsher gun control legislation in the wake of repeated mass-shootings.


Panelist Mike Barnicle asked Bratton “what goes through [his] mind” when, for example, “on December 3rd, 2014, the day after the San Bernardino massacre, fifty-four members of the United States Senate voted against a bill that would have allowed people on the terror watch-list to be prohibited from purchasing a gun.”

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Bratton minced no words, replying “shame on them — shame on them that they are totally beholden, that they prostitute themselves in front of the NRA.”

“They put the interest of their own political careers and that of the NRA ahead of the American people,” he added. “As presidential candidate Hillary Clinton [said] in the clip you just showed, the idea of the threat of the terrorist watch-list [is non-existent] — you can go and buy a gun, [or] you’re on a no-fly list, and you can go and buy a gun.”


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AMEN! n/t chillfactor Jun 2016 #1
Does Bratton think people on the Terror Watch List should be able to ride the New York Subway? PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #2
Seems to me he was talking about guns davidthegnome Jun 2016 #4
Um, people on the terror watch list CAN ride the subway . . . markpkessinger Jun 2016 #6
Yes. But should they be allowed to do so? I'm trying to establish what Bratton thinks PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #7
He believes they shouldn't be able to arm themselves DoBotherMe Jun 2016 #8
WTH are you going on about. Getting on the subway does not equate with having a gun . . . brush Jun 2016 #9
wtf... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #12
Nice! Squinch Jun 2016 #3
VID: zebonaut Jun 2016 #5
Yes indeed. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #10
Valid point, bad conclusion. ImLiberalNotLeftist Jun 2016 #11
He is right on. The GOP has a wedge issue in guns and they don't want applegrove Jun 2016 #13
I'd argue its a wedge issue for the entire nation not just for the Right. ImLiberalNotLeftist Jun 2016 #14
The Democrats want the issue of gun violence solved and mitigated. applegrove Jun 2016 #15
Wow, the fascist prick said something I actually agree with Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #16

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
2. Does Bratton think people on the Terror Watch List should be able to ride the New York Subway?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jun 2016

What about enter a school?

Oh and the Orlando shooter was removed from the list after the FBI interviewed him.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
4. Seems to me he was talking about guns
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:39 PM
Jun 2016

rather specifically. No mention of entering schools or riding a subway...

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
6. Um, people on the terror watch list CAN ride the subway . . .
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jun 2016

. . . It's not like people screen riders as they enter!

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
7. Yes. But should they be allowed to do so? I'm trying to establish what Bratton thinks
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jun 2016

those on the terror-watch list should be allowed to do.

DoBotherMe

(2,340 posts)
8. He believes they shouldn't be able to arm themselves
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jun 2016

So that they can carry out a vendetta against the people they hate by killing them

brush

(53,782 posts)
9. WTH are you going on about. Getting on the subway does not equate with having a gun . . .
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jun 2016

that you can kill 50 people with in a few minutes.

Why would you hijack the thread with diversions like subway cars?

Bratton is clearly talking about guns, and everyone else seems to get that.

 
11. Valid point, bad conclusion.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jun 2016

Blaming this on the GOP makes about as much sense as Trump blaming it on the DNC or Muslims from half a world away. Each side seems to be able to drum up all sorts of "evidence" to support to their claims when it comes to handing out blame. Sure it doesn't make sense that a suspected terrorist should be able to buy firearms but then was the bill really written as plainly as this guy is explaining it? These politicians play so many games with our legislative and election processes that its shameful. I'm pretty disappointed that 50 dead people are being used as such political fodder.

applegrove

(118,674 posts)
13. He is right on. The GOP has a wedge issue in guns and they don't want
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jun 2016

to ever see the issue resolved. Because they get votes that way. I posted this because he hits the nail on the head. The GOP are prostitution themselves and selling out the American public at the same time.

 
14. I'd argue its a wedge issue for the entire nation not just for the Right.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 01:13 AM
Jun 2016

As for prostrating, sell out, disregard safety, etc, you know they say the same things about us when it comes to other issues like illegal immigration and terrorism. But as far as placing blame for this tragedy at the feet of lawmakers I'm sticking by my original comment. I think its wrong and in bad taste because, contrary to the claim, its not like somebody actually wrote a law just to make sure suspected terrorists could buy firearms.

applegrove

(118,674 posts)
15. The Democrats want the issue of gun violence solved and mitigated.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 01:20 AM
Jun 2016

The GOP want the threat of "government taking your gun away" to last forever for political reasons. They are entirely not the same thing. The first is policy to make the USA safer for police and civilians. The second is so the GOP can win elections so that rich white men don't have to pay taxes at all.

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