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The Young Turks on Bernie Sanders getting booed by House Dems (Original Post) Eric J in MN Jul 2016 OP
I agree with the House Democrats bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #1
Huh? curiouso Jul 2016 #3
It's only proving a point! angstlessk Jul 2016 #4
the goal is not to win elections bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #5
These concepts are why people have lost/are losing faith with the system demwing Jul 2016 #7
I agree with the House Democrats. stonecutter357 Jul 2016 #2
Gee sangfroid Jul 2016 #6
Dems da Breaks Night Watchman Jul 2016 #8

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
1. I agree with the House Democrats
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jul 2016

To be told by someone who has just lost in a national contest that winning is not a goal...I can't get my head around that either. It's almost as if Bernie Sanders theorizes that it is more important to say the same thing over and over than it is to change the world.

bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
5. the goal is not to win elections
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jul 2016

Did I believe that the phrase "the goal is not to win elections but to transform the blah blah blah" valorizes pure ideology over actually doing things?

Yes.

Is that my takeaway from his message?

Yes.

Do I personally believe that it's more important to win elections and to have a party that is organized, strong, cohesive, and progressive/liberal, rather than sitting around staring at our navels and trying to see who has the more pure ideology?

Yes.

Am I kidding when I say that I support the House Democrats in their scorn for being told by someone who had just lost a national race that it's unimportant to win elected office?

No.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
7. These concepts are why people have lost/are losing faith with the system
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jul 2016

thanks for being honest, but holy shit, I can't disagree with you enough.

 

sangfroid

(212 posts)
6. Gee
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jul 2016

So Democrats keep trying to sell the old meme that politics is nothing more than than a competitive sport between Jesus and Hitler, but then they wonder why all those folks who worked for Bernie aren't racing over to support the presumptive nominee?

Yeah, that'll work.

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