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Siwsan

(26,266 posts)
2. Being as everything I've heard he wants to do is destructive to us, YES!!
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 04:56 PM
Nov 2016

I'm trying to wrap my mind around how destroying Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are, in any way, going to improve things for people. Rather, I see it as a way to 'cull the herd'.

Like most of us I paid into SS my entire working life, counting on it being there when I needed it. I also saved and invested money so I would have funds to to supplement the SS payments. I counted on having Medicare when my work retirement benefit healthcare insurance coverage expires, when I turn 65. And now, I am afraid that everything will be yanked out from beneath me, at once.

The future looks dire, but not nearly as dire for those younger than me.

Siwsan

(26,266 posts)
4. Trump ran on nothing based in reality - his being "elected" will enable those who advocate for that
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 05:11 PM
Nov 2016

With the current legislative make up, who is going to stop the likes of Paul Ryan, who had long advocated for gutting the system - turning SS over to wall street and voucher health care.

Siwsan

(26,266 posts)
8. He's probably going to get bored and delegate everything to Pence and crew
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 05:34 PM
Nov 2016

Or do/say something SO outrages, they will have no choice but to remove him.

 

kebob

(499 posts)
5. Hell Yeah!
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 05:11 PM
Nov 2016

Not just for revenge, but the fact that 99.999999% of everything Trump wants to do will damage the country.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
10. Theere were a few thingxs he "proomised" during the campaign that I would ask the Dems to
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 06:12 PM
Nov 2016

work with him on. Rebuilding our infrastructure; maintaining SS as is and increasing the cap if necessary; guaranteeing Medicare for seniors with NO privatization.

Those are all things the Pubs will fight the Con on, but I believe those issues are Democratic Ideas and I'd like to see the Dems in Congress fight the pubs and side with the Con on them.

All his other promises either cannot be done, or should be fought against every bit as hard as the Pubs fought Obamas ideas.

Snoopy 7

(527 posts)
12. Now let me hit you with some reality:
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 09:05 AM
Nov 2016

President Obama, here we go again. I have voted and supported you twice just to have you play nice nice with the Republican Party well supprise it didn't work. Oh yea the rich (1%) got a lot of benefits and got even richer and the middle class (approx. 23%) started to see some benefits, but what about he other 76%? Oh wait unemployment is at 4%, and we all know that is BS, the system you chose to play in is not rigged it is broken for the 76% of American's you chose to ignore in order to please those in you new inner circle. Play nice nice yea right, don't you mean get walked on while the Republican Party decides to look great with the American People. As they start passing what they wouldn't pass when you wanted it! Then wala the Republican Party looks great to the ignorant American citizenry and they keep getting reelected. When will the Democratic party learn to play hard ball again(?) not until it become the Democratic Party AGAIN. I have notice the change over as it slowly crept into the two parties which have now become one party, you either get Republican or Crazy Republican. Either way we have lost our two party system. So let's go play nice nice for the American People, you know like the Republican Party did, and when you say American People you mean the 24% right! Oh by the way I did support our real democratic candidate, Bernie Sanders, which you did not support. And yes I did take one for the team as I voted for this years republican (Hillary) I just figured Trump would be bad for the country. And now we have Trump, THANKS OBAMA, and people wonder how this happened as I reiterate " system you chose to play in is not rigged it is broken". The Democratic Party chose Hillary, we didn't, and don't give me the more votes BS I went and counted the actual votes and Hillary lost. The SYSTEM counted votes for her that were not there and the media went with it...

OnDoutside

(19,960 posts)
14. I think they should publicly SAY they are willing to work with him, as much as they can now, and
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 01:12 PM
Nov 2016

then in practice oppose everything he does.

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