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I grew up in the Westboro Baptist Church. Here's why I left Megan Phelps-Roper (Original Post) RandiFan1290 Mar 2017 OP
Thanks RandiFan for sharing this. I needed to hear some understanding words from even one lambchopp59 Mar 2017 #1
I am really sorry that happened to you. teezy Mar 2017 #4
What a beautiful preseentation Perseus Mar 2017 #2
She and her sister Grace are amazing. teezy Mar 2017 #3
We are all just human beings. This is an illuminating message form a changed person. The Wielding Truth Mar 2017 #5
Love and Forgiveness Are Key to Positive Change Peaceful Protester Mar 2017 #6

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
1. Thanks RandiFan for sharing this. I needed to hear some understanding words from even one
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 09:46 AM
Mar 2017

of the Westboro's ilk. I milked this for some healing catharsis.
Long before this so called "church" rose to national fame, A brief but significant encounter with Fred Phelps and some of his extended family turned my teenage life to shit at 16 years old. I'd been "outed" as gay in the small, rural mining town my parents had moved me to. There were some local Phelps family in the community. Not long after it had become obvious that I had become a singular object of scorn and continual bullying, one of the local Phelps kids my age invited me to a "party in my honor". He said his uncle wanted to meet me and talk to me.
Okay, I knew something was a little off here, but I went just to satisfy my curiosity. It was horrifying. As soon as I walked into the door of their household, there stood Fred Phelps, angrily condemning me to hell for all eternity. All the rest in attendance stood around me chanting weird phrases such as "burn in hell, fag".
I didn't stick around long. I just shook the whole thing off as extraordinary. But it didn't stop there.
From that day on the bullying escalated at school. One of the members of the same local "church" had been preaching at my father daily. At first, my dad expressed his annoyance with this, but with persistence, my father became more distant and neglectful.
I'm going to try to make a long story short here: the whole thing is a novel I've finished but haven't copyrighted or published.
But the jest I'll share here is that the local Westboro-ilk convinced my father to attempt to murder me. He very nearly succeeded.
And it was the reason I ran away from home at 16. I became afraid for my own life to be hanging around that community any longer, and justifiably so. I left early in the school year, before winter hit. I dumpster dived. I slept in cardboard boxes under freeway trees and bridges. I soon learned to sell myself on Polk street. It was there, however that I became very ill from a black widow spider that had bitten me, and a kindly old man took me in and kept me as his houseboy for nearly a year.
I'm scared all over again. Trump's election and the quick-to-judge and prosecute mentality that did so has pushed all my PTSD buttons all over again. I recall that Thanksgiving as a hungry vagrant who had nothing to eat but some shortbread cookies I had dug from the dumpster.
Here, finally would be one of their bunch who possibly would listen and comprehend the real consequences I largely blame them for. Congratulations, Megan for overcoming the brainwashing you'd been subjected to. i doubt you are even old enough to know some of the horrid malevolence your family initiated.
But if I could sue that entire organization for the pain, suffering, starvation and impoverishment that the Phelpses and ilk caused me, I would not hesitate one moment to do so.

teezy

(269 posts)
4. I am really sorry that happened to you.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:22 AM
Mar 2017

What a terrifying bunch of experiences. Thank you for sharing them with us. And I'm sorry the current state of affairs is triggering you. You are not alone in that.

Please let us know when you publish your book.

teezy

(269 posts)
3. She and her sister Grace are amazing.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:18 AM
Mar 2017

I followed their Twitters, which lead me to their blogs. It's pretty amazing that for two girls raised in such a close-minded, brainwashed community, that they turned out to be not only extremely intelligent and worldly, but compassionate and eloquent as well. That must have been a conflicting experience, feeling freed from the confines of WBC and embracing everything they were told to hate their entire lives.

Lauren Drain is another inspirational young woman who left the WBC. Her dad is Steve Drain, the one who used to be a videographer and joined the church after doing a documentary on them. he looks like Sean Spicer.

Peaceful Protester

(280 posts)
6. Love and Forgiveness Are Key to Positive Change
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:19 PM
Mar 2017

[div style="text-align:justify;"]Thank you for sharing. Great lessons from an credible speaker on how to listen and be heard in an era of divided politics.

Jesus taught that the cycle of violence and revenge could be broken through the process of love and forgiveness. Both Martin Luther King Jr and Gandhi studied scripture and had understood the radical message of selfless love Jesus had taught centuries before. Though they were vilified, all three men showed us how a greater and deeper selfless love could benefit all.

To develop such selfless love, each thought, word, and deed must be motivated by the welfare and well-being of others, and not for one's own gratification; and not just for those whom we care. MLK and Gandhi became powerful leaders and political figures because they empowered everyone around them. They understood the power of engaging others with respect, dignity, love, and forgiveness.

Both men had understood the radical message of love that Jesus taught centuries before. Jesus' teachings were as radical for his time as they are today. Through his words and actions Jesus led the way. Through the use of positive nonviolence any one can be that positive catalyst for change as this speaker so eloquently explains.

Principles of Love and Forgiveness (as taught by Jesus)
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• For all have sinned
• None is righteous, no, not one
• Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be blotted out
• Forgive others as we have been forgiven
• Love one another as I have loved you
• Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you
• Judge not lest ye be judged
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