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Newsweek article: http://www.newsweek.com/fbi-director-james-comey-russian-tampering-election-576417
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)it would be twisted to mean everything but what it really means.
caroldansen
(725 posts)lapucelle
(18,268 posts)wanted a coordinated formal public announcement rather than a vague op-ed piece.
I'm being careful in drawing inferences from the Newsweek story. As it's being spun, Comey and Trump benefit from the narrative. That's enough to make me suspicious as to its framing.
Turbineguy
(37,338 posts)it was better that trump won.
The republican party and so-called conservatives (who are actually Putin's Useful Idiots) own this.
If Hillary Clinton had won we would end up with more years of gridlock from ankle biting rabid dogs, Phony scandals. New impeachment charges every two weeks, etc..
Hopefully the majority of US citizens will step up to the plate next time and vote. And hopefully the Democratic party will accept candidates that can get elected.
Quixote1818
(28,944 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)videohead5
(2,177 posts)You remember the FBI did not want to sign on with the rest of the agencies about Russia screwing with the election.this story does not jive.
elmac
(4,642 posts)elleng
(130,964 posts)'Democrats may not have been as divided as we were led to believe during the 2016 election season.
When it was revealed during the Senate Intelligence Committee hearing that Russian bots (computer algorithm controlled social media accounts) on Twitter had masqueraded as Bernie Bros during the 2015-2016 election cycle, it was not news to me it was confirmation of my experience.
During the campaign season, I was vocal on Twitter about my support for Hillary Clinton. As a result, I became used to receiving sexualized and gendered abuse, and even rape and death threats, on a daily basis.
A great deal of the abuse came from so-called #MAGA accounts, the Make America Great Again hashtag by which Donald Trump supporters, and those pretending to be such, identified themselves. As more and more information came out about Trumps ties to Russia, I began to suspect correctly that many of these accounts were not real people but rather were accounts with fake identities or bots.
Indeed, some estimates now say that as much as one-fifth of Twitter traffic was controlled by pro-Trump, anti-Clinton bots and troll accounts during the election. With these #MAGA account attacks, it was relatively easy to block them and move on emotionally, at least, as the abuse they delivered was easy to deflect because they were not people with whom I believed I had values in common in the first place.
However, the rest of the abuse came from accounts purporting to be supporters of Vermont Independent Senator Bernie Sanders. And these were people with whom I believed I shared common values and policy interests. Almost all of the accounts presented as men mostly young and white and used sexist and misogynistic tones and words. I was called mom and grandma as epithets by these young men. I was called every vile sexualized name you can imagine. For some reason that I did not understand at the time, they liked to call me a vagina. (I now believe non-native English i.e. Russian speakers wrote the algorithms controlling these bots and perhaps imagined vagina to be the equivalent of the c-word when hurled at a woman.) Not being conversant in the mechanisms of Russian psychological warfare techniques at the time, it never occurred to me that, like the #MAGA bots, these Bernie Bro accounts were actually bots too.'>>>
http://shareblue.com/watching-the-hearings-i-learned-my-bernie-bro-harassers-may-have-been-russian-bots/
klook
(12,155 posts)and eagerly embraced the slander by association of the candidate the fake "bros" supposedly supported.
I would like to think that, knowing what we know now, fewer of us will be hoodwinked and divided by these tactics in the future.
elleng
(130,964 posts)I wish I could think that fewer would be hoodwinked and divided, but not so sure.
CitizenZero
(532 posts)A lot of these Russian Cyber Attacks seem to have been designed to divide Dems and cause hostility between Sanders and Clinton People. Every Democratic Politician and Candidate should now have Counter-Intelligence and Cyber-Intelligence specialists on their Staffs to fight these sort of Hacks in the future.
The DNC should have their own Cyber Teams to do Counter Ops against Russians and Other Cyber forces (alt-Right, etc.) seeking to undermine our Party and our Political Processes. High profile Senators, Governors, and House Members should have co-ordinated Teams of Cyber Security Specialists. This is the new face of Cyber Warfare in the 21st Century.
As Dems, we need to unite and recognize that a lot of the bad blood stirred up between Sanders Folks and Clinton Supporters was artificial and arose from Russian bots creating artificial conflict. As Democrats and Americans, in and out of Government, we must build Teams and Resources specifically to Counter these sort of Political Cyber Operations. We need to build multiple Teams of Cyber Operatives to Counter these sort of Foreign and Domestic Hackers and get them out of our Media, Politics, and Government.
Sanders People, Hillary People, the DNC, and Others should unite in this, I think.
elleng
(130,964 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)I kept seeing them on Facebook.
I recall real news articles that there were Russian poseurs.