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SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,196 posts)that any investigation is going to shake up the world that much.
They may just indict a few, force a replacement at the top, and allow the others to retire quietly.
This fish may be too big to swallow
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Plus, we have witnessed how the elites get off without consequences. I have my doubts that Mueller "gets" more than a few. And trump will get off free, as horrible as that sounds, for we have the mafia running the WH. Flynn and Manafort are going down, maybe that is all.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)Schneiderman, the AG from New York, has had a hard on for Trump since 2013 when he filed suit against him for the ridiculous "Trump University" scam. Trump had some very unkind words for Schneiderman, and there's been extremely bad blood between the two ever since. Schneiderman hates con-men, and people from the "ruling class" who abuse their position and power. Since Trump's prime residence is in New York, everything he's done before, during, and after his campaign falls within Scneiderman's purview. Mueller knows Trump would pardon himself, thus setting up a Constitutional crisis that could be tied up for quite some time. Trump CAN'T pardon himself from crimes committed in New York State, so the investigation may conclude that charges against Trump (and his key allies) would be better off being filed in New York, rather than in Federal Court.
Trump IS going to pay for his transgressions, in one place or another. His days of flouting the law are over. He's been giving law enforcement the finger his entire life, and now that bill has FINALLY come due. He WILL pay!
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)I just remember awful things like Nov. 8th was not the right outcome. They cheat and that is but one example.
It will be a very satisfying day if he is indicted and convicted with NO PARDON.
Rural_Progressive
(1,105 posts)and that's part of what is making him nuts. He desperately wants to be accepted and in fact be considered part of the upper crust. If you look at the faces of old money people (from all around the world) you can see the amusement and disdain in their faces.
I'm sure you're familiar with the saying "If you owe the bank $10k, the bank owns you. If you own the bank $1 million, you own the bank" Well dRump owes a lot of people a lot of money and they want their money back. A fair number of them are really nasty people. As long as they think keeping him in office keeps him as a money cow, he'll stay there.
The instant he loses his effectiveness and/or becomes too much of an embarrassment his time (and his kids) will be over. Look for all his lickspittles, toadies, and sycophants to go down with him.
He decided to play in the majors and that is a tough league to crack. They'll mess you up if you aren't of use to them just to send a message to anyone else who thinks they can jerk "the elite" around like dRump has tried to do. The man is a tool pure and simple.
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zentrum
(9,865 posts)stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)thbobby
(1,474 posts)Republicans in Senate are the only hope we have of saving our democracy.
I believe Mueller is a professional.
Pursuing state charges against Manafort in New York is him nullifying Trump's pardon power.
Most Republicans may be complicit in Russia's attempt to destroy America, but only 3 are needed to stop legislation to shut Mueller down.
Impeachment is probably impossible, but I believe this is going to get very painful for Trump, his family, and his cronies.
The more pressure that is applied to Trump and the Republicans who honor America more than the political power that complicity with Russia brings them, the likelier it is that this shit storm may be ended.
The GOP will wear the rotting carcass of Trump around their neck as long as they protect him.
WE MUST:
Raise hell to our congressmen and senators.
VOTE IN THE GODDAMN MIDTERMS (plagiarized from The Ferret).
Fight like Americans to save America
MLAA
(17,300 posts)OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)Botany
(70,522 posts)Felix Slater:
"Buddy, our boy can become President of the USA and we can engineer it.
I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this."
DK504
(3,847 posts)This was a coup and now there is an actual puppet in the WH nd unless we get everyone out to vote we will be ripped apart.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Isn't it about freakin time this sexy (and funny) liberal had her own MSNBC show?