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Pat Robertson: Trump "can grant a pardon to everybody involved in this thing if he wants to" (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 2017 OP
STFU bullimiami Oct 2017 #1
Maybe HE.......... MyOwnPeace Oct 2017 #2
No more judicial confirmations. This is the last year of the tRump Presidency. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #4
Shhhhhhhh...they may hear you ..... DK504 Oct 2017 #10
He can, but everybody would be compelled to testify because no need for 5th Amend protection. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #3
Tell Pat he's saving the pardons for himself Deb Oct 2017 #5
I thought Robertson would be against Indulgences, especially on the Eve of the 500th Anniversary ... Journeyman Oct 2017 #6
Yeah, like this twisted old fook knows anything about anything. Hulk Oct 2017 #7
As long as they're guilty rock Oct 2017 #8
Aw, for Christ's sake, Pat! Plucketeer Oct 2017 #9
This man puts the H florida08 Oct 2017 #11
...... trusty elf Oct 2017 #16
Yes he can -- and Congress can impeach him for it! Shoonra Oct 2017 #12
He is just another moronic idiot, who does not understand seperation of church and state. Kleveland Oct 2017 #13
Hey fuck head! Turbineguy Oct 2017 #14
Can't pardon fellow conspirators onit2day Oct 2017 #15

MyOwnPeace

(16,928 posts)
2. Maybe HE..........
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 06:58 PM
Oct 2017

should be IQ45's next Supreme Court nominee!

(I wonder if we had the right administration and department heads if this guy could be nailed for mail fraud?
Really! Who in their right mind would send ANY money, er...."donations" to him?)

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,011 posts)
3. He can, but everybody would be compelled to testify because no need for 5th Amend protection.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 07:00 PM
Oct 2017

And they would be at risk for perjury since such testimony would be after the pardon.

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
6. I thought Robertson would be against Indulgences, especially on the Eve of the 500th Anniversary ...
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 07:04 PM
Oct 2017

of Martin Luther nailing his 95 Theses to the Church door.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
7. Yeah, like this twisted old fook knows anything about anything.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 07:17 PM
Oct 2017

I find it hard to believe that anyone even takes this shriveled old fart seriously about anything but a practiced referral is what brand of diaper to wear.

Satan talks in strange ways.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
9. Aw, for Christ's sake, Pat!
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 07:45 PM
Oct 2017

I think I hear God calling you home. You're makin' him look bad down here!

Shoonra

(523 posts)
12. Yes he can -- and Congress can impeach him for it!
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 08:46 PM
Oct 2017

The Virginia ratification convention in 1788 spent quite a bit of time on the provision about the President's ability to pardon crimes, and the delegates assured each other that the President would be impeached if he started pardoning his own cronies for stuff in which he was complicit.

Additionally, once Manafort or any of those other guys get a pardon - especially a broadly worded pardon that covers all offenses - they cannot thereafter use the Fifth Amendment to refuse to testify, and can be forced to testify against the very President that issued that pardon ... so Trump is unlikely to pardon them before he leaves the White House for the last time, if at all.

In the meantime, Trump will dangle the possibility of pardon or other presidential clemency (such as commutation, which W gave Scooter Libby, sparing him time in lock-down but leaving him with a criminal record and a whopping fine to pay) in front of all his people -- but (as Reagan promised Ollie North) only if they first go all the way through the entire judicial process, meaning trial, conviction and sentencing. If, by a miracle, they aren't convicted, no need for a pardon. But going through the grinder means they keep silent, they don't cut a deal with the prosecutor to snitch on Trump and their conviction and sentence will prove their Mafia-like loyalty. And then, maybe, Trump will remember to pardon them on his way out. Or maybe, like Nixon and Reagan, he'll leave them dangling in the wind.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
13. He is just another moronic idiot, who does not understand seperation of church and state.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 10:04 PM
Oct 2017

Go back to preaching your hypocritical dogma to the fools who you fleece for money.

If there is a hell, it is knowing that you, and others like you are in my world.

What what Jesus do?

He would kick your ugly ass straight to hell!

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