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bullimiami
(13,099 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,928 posts)should be IQ45's next Supreme Court nominee!
(I wonder if we had the right administration and department heads if this guy could be nailed for mail fraud?
Really! Who in their right mind would send ANY money, er...."donations" to him?)
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,011 posts)DK504
(3,847 posts)we must be vah-weee van-weee quiet ...
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,011 posts)And they would be at risk for perjury since such testimony would be after the pardon.
Deb
(3,742 posts)Making them to go get their own.... Sad!
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)of Martin Luther nailing his 95 Theses to the Church door.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)I find it hard to believe that anyone even takes this shriveled old fart seriously about anything but a practiced referral is what brand of diaper to wear.
Satan talks in strange ways.
rock
(13,218 posts)And we're talking federal crime.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I think I hear God calling you home. You're makin' him look bad down here!
florida08
(4,106 posts)in hypocrisy. Honestly his horns should be showing
trusty elf
(7,394 posts)Shoonra
(523 posts)The Virginia ratification convention in 1788 spent quite a bit of time on the provision about the President's ability to pardon crimes, and the delegates assured each other that the President would be impeached if he started pardoning his own cronies for stuff in which he was complicit.
Additionally, once Manafort or any of those other guys get a pardon - especially a broadly worded pardon that covers all offenses - they cannot thereafter use the Fifth Amendment to refuse to testify, and can be forced to testify against the very President that issued that pardon ... so Trump is unlikely to pardon them before he leaves the White House for the last time, if at all.
In the meantime, Trump will dangle the possibility of pardon or other presidential clemency (such as commutation, which W gave Scooter Libby, sparing him time in lock-down but leaving him with a criminal record and a whopping fine to pay) in front of all his people -- but (as Reagan promised Ollie North) only if they first go all the way through the entire judicial process, meaning trial, conviction and sentencing. If, by a miracle, they aren't convicted, no need for a pardon. But going through the grinder means they keep silent, they don't cut a deal with the prosecutor to snitch on Trump and their conviction and sentence will prove their Mafia-like loyalty. And then, maybe, Trump will remember to pardon them on his way out. Or maybe, like Nixon and Reagan, he'll leave them dangling in the wind.
Kleveland
(1,257 posts)Go back to preaching your hypocritical dogma to the fools who you fleece for money.
If there is a hell, it is knowing that you, and others like you are in my world.
What what Jesus do?
He would kick your ugly ass straight to hell!
Turbineguy
(37,345 posts)you should register under FARA.