Exposing Liberal Hypocrisy and Conservative Close-Mindedness

[Binkie The Clown]

Something you may not want to hear, but probably should pay attention to:

[DangerousUrNot]

1. This was a good watch

He made some good points. One thing he said that liberals do is calling southern Republicans stupid. I see that happening and I have always made it a point not to personally attack republicans that I debate, unless they attack me .
It seems republicans now have went off the deep end. I agree with him that they are more anti-liberal than conservative. There is so much animosity between the two ideologies and with Trump in office, I don’t see it getting better anytime soon. I hope I’m wrong.

[tomp]

2. couldn't stand to watch past about 5 minutes.

when it got to the part about "voting against economic interest" he lost me.

Why? because the rich white people he talks about who vote for higher taxes to pay for progressive programs do not then turn around and blame the gov't or anyone else for stealing their money or allocating tax money the wrong way.

but the red state poor and working class white's who "vote their values" do exactly that. red staters blame liberals for their problems when it's conservatives who are causing them.

it also equates all values, which is also dead wrong. duck dynasty keeping women barefoot and in the kitchen is not equal to ideas about quality education for all, etc.

mr. jones appears to be playing into the "general wisdom" of the democratic "loss" in 2016, that "liberals" lost touch with the rest of the country. this is utter hogwash. the outcome of such an idea is for democrats to tack to the right to win over the poor white and working class, when the opposite is true.

[mrsadm]

3. It's "closeD-mindedness" not close-mindedness

[mdbl]

4. Van Jones has turned into a moron extraordinnaire

He's so full of crap. To try and say I should listen to REALLY FAKE NEWS so I know what's going on is completely off the deep end. he needs to get a life and push for some way to fix the journalistic standards that have been so screwed up by Mush Limpballs, Fux Nooze and the F'ing SCOTUS. Don't tell me to listen to hypocrite assholes.

[jrthin]

5. He's an idiot. nt

[Binkie The Clown]

6. You can tell by the replies who is interested in a difficult truth and who isn't.

If it doesnt't fit in our own echo chamber bubble, then:



Kind of reminds me of trying to get a Fox News viewer to look at something outside their own bubble. You'll be met with hostility. I don't know that I expected anything different, though. We all have our bubbles and fight to stay inside them.

I prefer to think outside the bubble, however, and that often gets me slammed by bubble dwellers.

[OxQQme]

7. I'm with you, Binkie. Kicking

lalalalala indeed.

[mdbl]

8. I'm not interested in hearing that people are ignorant because of the media they watch

there is right and wrong, not kinda right and kinda wrong.

[DangerousUrNot]

10. Yea...

The one thing I have about “listening” to the other side is that, for the most part, I understand their positions. I don’t think we need to listen to Fox, Rush or some alt-righter to fully comprehend their message.
He said some of them put their values over the principles or policies that are better for the nation. For example, not taxing the rich because they don’t want help from the government by stealing other people’s money. That’s a straw man because the government is not stealing anything. It is sacrificing money for things like roads and schools.
It is asinine that some people actually look at it as stealing.
And I’m not saying that you believe in that, I was referring to republicans.

[Nitram]

9. The flaw in his reasoning appears at the very beginning of his talk.

NPR, The New York Times, etc cannot be compared to right wing media like Fox News, right wing talk radio or the National Review because the latter start with an ideological premise that determines what they report, how they report it and what conclusions they will reach. The former apply rigid journalistic principles that guide the choice of what to report, how to report it, and what conclusions they reach. That doesn't insure perfect balance and objectivity, but it does avoid the propagandistic extremes of the right wing media.