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(52,243 posts)
1. Afaik, she only ever claimed to be about 3% Native American
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:21 AM
Nov 2017

And while she has no evidence of this (she never claimed anything more than family stories), there’s also no evidence she’s mistaken, either; and certainly no reason to think she lied.

More important, it’s utter bullsh*t to take this moment to point out the tiny semi-legitimate point behind donnie’s Odious insult to native Americans and veterans.

I mean, if Donnie used the n-word, would they seriously try to point out that the term has origins in the Latin word for black????

That way way way misses the entire point or anything about why it’s offensive.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
2. I have no doubt she is - and it is something to be proud of.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:29 AM
Nov 2017

But likely no one would have referred to it again if Trump didn't keep bringing it up - he's like a five-year-old trying to annoy his sister. Trump doesn't care what anyone else thinks, it's all about him and no one else crosses his mind as long as he gets his perceived insult in.

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(52,243 posts)
3. but the daily show's coverage is infuriating.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:46 AM
Nov 2017

even though their audience tilts rather left, i understand that they still try to poke fun at the left as well.

fine, i have no problem with that (ignoring that the studio audience clearly prefers the jokes at the expense of the right over the jokes at the expense of the left....)

but if it was worth pointing out that warren had made a claim for which she had no proof, how the hell do they justify using this moment to run that story? donnie explicitly made the charge against warren during campaign speeches, fine, address it at that point *when that was the point*.

donnie bringing it up now had everything to do with bigotry. he brought up warren and his favorite insult against warren for the sole reason that he was honoring (well, *supposed* to be honoring) some native americans, and therefore his bigoted brain immediately jumps to warren.

was there a great strategic political need to take warren down a notch?

no, it's just donnie being a bigot, not only insulting warren, but also insulting the honorees standing right next to him, as well as many other americans at the same time.

but such displays of bigotry burnish his image of being a bigot's idea of a great president....


and for some reason the daily show decided inexplicably to let donnie get a clear win on this one.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
4. That's a very good point.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:53 AM
Nov 2017

And, coming from South Africa and a mixed race family, one would think Trevor Noah would be more sensitive to this. However, it is the outrage/joke of the moment - and everyone's milking it, both news shows and comedians.

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(52,243 posts)
6. i'm happy they're covering the story, but this particular angle on it has no justification
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:04 AM
Nov 2017

other than to appease the right wing and put donnie in the best possible light.

it wasn't remotely funny, either. no laughter from the studio audience.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
7. Trevor usually impresses me. He's only been in the US since 2011 and is great on American politics
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:16 AM
Nov 2017

And he's as harshly critical of Trump as anyone out there - but then he also has writers.

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(52,243 posts)
8. Im still a fan and in some ways hes even better than jon was
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 02:25 AM
Nov 2017

Certainly he does impressions and accents much better
Plus I like the interesting comedic perspective he brings as someone who is biracial.

But he blew it on this one.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
9. He really is multi talented, I agree!
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 03:15 AM
Nov 2017

I once happened on a stand up special of his - and you're right - he is terrific on impressions and voices! One episode that sticks with me was during the campaign - he was broadcasting from an underground studio, it was supposedly after the apocalypse that took place because Trump had won. It was scary as hell - but of course it was just fictitious.

And Lawrence O'Donnell did a great piece on Pocahontas tonight, talked about her life which was quite remarkable. He said a comparison to her would be a compliment, like comparing a basketball player to Michael Jordan. But of course, it wasn't funny.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
11. Someone needs to start a thread will all duragatory names for Trump
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 07:40 AM
Nov 2017

based on all his lies - we can pick the top 2 or 3 and use them incessantly.

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