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(6,288 posts)She makes a critical point that should be heeded..
elleng
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(6,288 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)"DEMS ARE IN DISSARAY!!"
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MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...than I'd love to see Sen. Duckworth be considered for the VP spot on the ticket.
PEACE!
appalachiablue
(41,127 posts)Rowe v. Wade would also deny IVF treatment which she used for her pregnancies.
At the end, Jake added the recent Bronx win by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and asked whether the party has to be concerned about moving too far left.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)geardaddy
(24,926 posts)She was born in Bangkok. Otherwise, I'd totally vote for her.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Her father is an American and she received her citizenship at birth.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)Same as McCain who was born in Panama.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)"Replace" is much more politically effective, [except for left purists].
olegramps
(8,200 posts)I don't like to see us lose the high ground and shoot ourselves in the foot. I believe all would agree that you have to be extremely careful not to allow any chance of misinterpretation. Trump lost no time is seizing the opportunity to say "see they what open borders" and the rest of the hyperbole about criminals, dope smugglers, etc. We have to attack the people who are responsible for this fiasco. And let it go at that. I believe that we can agree that we need effective control of the borders especially because of the threat of terrorism. In this day and age it seems ridiculous that we can't monitor the borders with high tech gear when you can buy a number of effective home surveillance systems.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)I hear a measured reasoned approach to breaking down this fascist regime of the NPA aka GOP. she is someone to be reckoned with.
jalan48
(13,859 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I get what folks mean when they say "Abolish ICE": abolish the barbaric zero tolerance policy of criminalizing people who are just trying to have a better life and/or seek asylum. They and I know that ICE was not created until 2003, and was meant to go after criminals and terrorists who mean to do us harm, not who want to cut our grass. But most Americans don't know that about ICE. When most Americans hear "Abolish ICE," they hear "open borders" since they think ICE and border enforcement are synonymous.
We should frame it as a demand that ICE not be diverted from their core function of protecting us from terrorists. And that is exactly what is happening. ICE is being prevented from devoting its resources to going after criminals by Trump's racist policy of having ICE jail and separate peaceful families attempting to flee Central American violence. Not only is it barbaric and expensive, it makes us less safe.
Oerdin
(1,037 posts)I already liked Senator Duckworth and this makes me like her even more. Like it or not our nation does need a law enforcement agency designed to enforce immigration and customs laws. Yes, I would like to see Trump policies removed but IMO people saying we should just stop enforcing immigration and customs laws are fools, they might mean well, but they are never the less fools.
The Democratic Party needs more level headed and smart people like Sen. Duckworth not more ragging people shouting impractical things. I want more well thought out positions and fewer.
Oneironaut
(5,492 posts)It will only hurt us in the midterms. I agree with its premise, but we need to work up to abolishing ICE, and more importantly, give an alternative. Now, the Republicans are going to claim Democrats want no security and chaos at the border. Mainstream America will buy it. Politically, the optics on this are terrible.
I think ICE should ultimately be replaced with something new. However, the Democrats look awful with their current message. We need to reframe the message into something more palatable for mainstream America.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)It even sounds better:
Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS)
vs.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
tirebiter
(2,536 posts)Curtailing offshore money laundering. They should be arresting Trump and his buds.