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Noam Chomsky: Donald Trump is a Distraction (Original Post) bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 OP
Brilliant Varaddem Jul 2018 #1
This is what we have to keep in mind and not put all our hopes on Mueller and the alwaysinasnit Jul 2018 #2
Surely some have thought of such plans bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #4
There is material out there that says it only takes about 3.5% of the population to topple a alwaysinasnit Jul 2018 #6
I would say bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #7
Every act of this administration needs to be undone pecosbob Jul 2018 #3
It's all tainted with illegitimacy bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #5
I remember a warning he gave after 9/11. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #8
Just use the YouTube bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #10
Oh, yeah. I use Youtube all the time. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #11
A problem from my perspective vis-a-vis posting here and DU's stated goals pecosbob Jul 2018 #9
Thank you.Agree. zentrum Jul 2018 #13
FYI -- there was an excellent opinion piece in Bloomberg News this morning (7/14) KPN Jul 2018 #16
He's right: put the clown show, the shit show, out there for everyone to entertain themselves YOHABLO Jul 2018 #12
"Elysium" Drake Notthesinger Jul 2018 #14
We Need More of This McKim Jul 2018 #15

Varaddem

(431 posts)
1. Brilliant
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 08:26 PM
Jul 2018

I’ve noticed that some of these huge changes are only getting a few minutes of air time. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

alwaysinasnit

(5,063 posts)
2. This is what we have to keep in mind and not put all our hopes on Mueller and the
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:02 PM
Jul 2018

mid-terms. The Republican know this and likely are planning/working to nullify our hopes. Can we start creative discussions about Plan B, Plan C, etc. just in case the Mueller investigation/mid-term elections don't pan out?

alwaysinasnit

(5,063 posts)
6. There is material out there that says it only takes about 3.5% of the population to topple a
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:11 PM
Jul 2018

dictator.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/01/worried-american-democracy-study-activist-techniques

This may provide a start on ideas we can use to mobilize just enough people in an organized fashion to effectuate change. I am just starting to look into this stuff and would like to work with anyone on how we can build a unified movement.

Any thoughts?

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
7. I would say
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:24 PM
Jul 2018

don't restrict your efforts to online isolation, there are surely constructive groups already in most any county in America, there are women's groups, #MeToo, environmental groups, union and workers groups, and Democratic Party county committees. Join one or two, attend local events. One person is but an idea, but two people can change the world. In this time of nearly full employment, party volunteer hours are in short supply for sure, so it's a great time to reach out to them. While people have diverse views on what to do and how to do it, finding folks who work toward the same goals is empowering.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. I remember a warning he gave after 9/11.
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:28 PM
Jul 2018

He was being interviewed...I think on Charlie Rose show. The drum beats were going on about invading Iraq. Chomsky spoke about that being foolish and irresponsible, partly because Iraq was no threat. That the two greatest threats to the world at that time were Iran and North Korea, and their nuclearization. He said that a war with Iraq would distract from those two threats and serve no purpose to help with terrorism, anyway.

Well, we know what happened. We destroyed Iraq, killed tens of thousands of people. It made terrorism worse, since it opened the area to terrorists (that Saddam Hussein had been keeping at bay). And Iran and N Korea got further along in their nuclearization efforts.

Noam Chomsky is a very smart man. He describes a terrible situation...I see it clearly, when he explains it.

I hope there's a way out of this. I hope and pray that Trump is indicted or impeached. I hope we win the Blue Wave so we can take back Congress.

Thank you for this video! Where did you find it?

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
10. Just use the YouTube
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:35 PM
Jul 2018

Once it gets accustomed to a few of the ones you watch, it just pops up a new batch everytime you visit the site. Membership not required. And it mixes old ones with recent ones, as well as ones that happened just minutes ago.

pecosbob

(7,534 posts)
9. A problem from my perspective vis-a-vis posting here and DU's stated goals
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 09:30 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Fri Jul 13, 2018, 10:18 PM - Edit history (1)

We're watching a struggle play out between Capitalism and Democracy. Democracy strives to coexist with Capitalism while Capitalism strives to eradicate Democracy. I say for the umpteenth time, courting having another post hidden, Dems are complicit and need to cleanse themselves of corporate ties and the dirty money that allows them to pull strings.

KPN

(15,641 posts)
16. FYI -- there was an excellent opinion piece in Bloomberg News this morning (7/14)
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 01:11 PM
Jul 2018

regarding capitalism and it's likely political future. In a nutshell, the younger the American voter, the lower the likelihood of a favorable view re: capitalism; and the reverse re: socialism. The article includes poll data supporting this. My take away: if we can just keep democracy breathing and alive long enough, capitalism will eventually get reined in and replaced with western European-style socialism.

I'm not a subscriber so I can't get back to it -- used up my free access -- to get and post a link and excerpts here. But it is well worth the read for those who do have access.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
12. He's right: put the clown show, the shit show, out there for everyone to entertain themselves
Fri Jul 13, 2018, 11:37 PM
Jul 2018

vis a vis TRUMP, and in the mean time, the Republicans are dismantling our Democracy and our country.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
15. We Need More of This
Sat Jul 14, 2018, 09:58 AM
Jul 2018

We need more of this information to get out into the world. I would like to see less reaction to to
Trump’s antics and deeper thinking like this on this website. Let’s think strategically for the long haul.

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