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Related: About this forumTrevor Responds to Criticism from the French Ambassador - Between The Scenes The Daily Show
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)And I've watched a LOT of it ... this is up there ... thanks Yui!
SemiHalfling
(53 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 19, 2018, 11:13 AM - Edit history (1)
The whole kerfuffle is extremely naive on his part. He has half a point to make, but bottom line he did echo a basic LePen trope with his initial comment. And the thought that we are somehow morally superior because we have ethnic parades is, well, laughable. We elected Donald Trump and they firmly rejected Le Pen. But we have Puerto Rican Day! Cmon. French diversity comes from colonialism, ok, where does ours come from? Slavery? Land grabs? Bah.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)You did not say "France won the World Cup with players who have an African heritage.", that would have been good, but you said "Africa won the World Cup", which is very different.
If a parent abandons his child, someone adopts that child and raises that child with love, makes a success of that child the adoptive parents are the real parents. Just because you had sex and a pregnancy happened doesn't make you a parent, being a parent takes more than an ejaculation and a pregnancy.
As the Ambassador explained, most of these players were born, educated and learned to play football in France, that makes them french with an African heritage, and the claim that they are African is wrong. Trevor, own this one. Not sure if he apologized because I did not finish watching the video.
I will give you another example, Messi. He moved to Spain when he was only 10 years old, Spain paid for his medical treatment, he became the player he is today because of the Spanish (Barcelona FC) system that took him from junior to professional. He was leaning into playing for Spain, which in my view deserved his services as a football player, and not Argentina who denied him the opportunity when he was a child, but now that he was formed, and best player in the World, the Argentinian Football Association wanted him for the national team, and denied him again the chance to be part of a winning side in the World Cup. Lets face it, the teams Argentina has presented at the World Cup with Messi have been pathetic, and having maradona as coach was the worst decision ever which minimized the chances for Messi to be part of a winning team. In my view, Messi owed Spain his career and his loyalty.
Trevor is wrong, and all those people who insist on minimizing France's win are wrong too.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Maybe you should, I think.