Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on their progressive push in deep-red states

[Donkees]

Published on Jul 22, 2018
One a longtime figure and the other a rising star in Democratic politics, they're trying to make waves in unlikely places.

[LongTomH]

1. Proud to K&R for Bernie

[marehare]

4. Bernie

As a lifelong Democrat, I will never support Bernie. He took millions in foreign donations, had foreign socialists working on his campaign (illegal as heck), and didn't quit when everyone knew he had lost. instead he stayed in the campaign, attacking Hillary and helped cause her defeat
He is the only senator to vote NO on all the recent Russian Sanctions bills and then he wails about the sanctions not being placed into action.
His voting record still sucks. So many No votes on Immigration (he wanted to protect white voters), gun control (no 5 times), No on Amber Alert Bill (only one to vote NO), No on Raped women's health care bill that would allow women to find out if their rapist had AIDS or was HIV Positive.

He will never be president. He can't run again under DNC rules and if they even think to allow it, the money from many deep pocketed Democrats like me will stop.

We want a real Democrat who is under 60 to run. No more old goats who won't show their taxes (just like trump), who haven't written articles about women wanting to be raped, or for candidates who can't connect with voters of all nationalities.

PS Calif voters didn't support Sanders and no presidential candidate will win if Ca Dems don't support them.

[lunamagica]

7. + a million!

[Magoo48]

8. Actually, Bernie was a refreshing progressive alternative in 2016.

[Power 2 the People]

9. You didn't mention his vote on the Iraq war

I wonder why.

[Honeycombe8]

11. These are my feelings. I can see votes falling to the side as they speak.

He is not a Democrat. He doesn't adhere to the Democratic Platform.

I expressed concern of her use of the Democratic Socialist term, and other said she's still a Democrat...she just refers to herself that way. Campaigning with a Socialist and a non-Democrat...that's not good. This may hurt the votes in the mid-terms.

There are people who won't vote for socialists, and who are moderate Democrats. I hope the Democratic leaders are addressing this issue. It's a free country, but the Party needs to decide whther to incorporate "socialist" in its platform or make it clear it's not a socialist party, IMO.

[progressoid]

16. "no presidential candidate will win if Ca Dems don't support them"??

How'd that work out in 2016?

[guillaumeb]

2. Recommended.

A 50 state strategy, and one way to introduce people to a different narrative from the one that corporate politicians insist is the only workable way.

If Democrats cannot change the narrative of what is possible, we will always be fighting on ground that the GOP chooses.

[Uncle Joe]

3. Alexandria is brilliant and I believe with Trump it's a combination of two things that Bernie

mentioned.

1. Putin does have compromising information on Trump.

2. Trump does love authoritarian leaders, he even envies their absolute power.

Trump loves how North Koreans treat Kim Jong Un: “I want my people to do the same”

After President Donald Trump heaped lavish praise on North Korean leader Kim Jong Un’s intellect and personality earlier this week following their historic summit, he raised more eyebrows on Friday by suggesting that he wanted Americans to defer to him the same way North Koreans do to Kim.

“He’s the head of a country, and I mean, he’s the strong head, don’t let anyone think anything different,” Trump said during an interview on Fox & Friends. “He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.”

When asked whether Kim could be a guest at the White House soon, Trump said, “I think it’s something that could happen.” He also seemed to tout Kim’s firing of multiple generals shortly before their meeting. “I think he fired at least [three generals],” Trump said.

These comments are the latest in a series of compliments Trump has given Kim in the wake of the summit between the two leaders on Tuesday. Trump had even joked during the summit that an anchor on North Korean state television, which broadcasts propaganda on behalf of Kim, praised Kim even more generously than Fox News did for Trump, according to Washington Post reporting.

(snip)

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/15/17467644/trump-kim-summit-fox-news

Thanks for the thread Donkees.

[msongs]

5. bernie meddling in democratic primaries seems to be popular in some circle nt

[Equinox Moon]

12. Senator Chuck Schumer designated Sen. Sanders to do outreach for Dem party

[MuseRider]

6. I have friends who heard them

each from one of the two locations that they visited in Kansas. They were all excited and very motivated. They both are exciting to listen to and bring issues up that really should be dealt with and not left to die over and over again.

Thanks Donkees!

[Honeycombe8]

10. I'm not liking this.

Are they campaigning together? He's not a Democrat.

The Democratic Party needs to get its ducks in a row, I think. It's a wide tent, but I don't get a good feeling from this.

[Equinox Moon]

13. Senator Chuck Schumer designated Sen. Sanders to do outreach for Dem party

[Honeycombe8]

14. Link?

Regardless, I'm still not liking that. But I'm not the one in control.

If Schumer sent someone not in the party to do "outreach" for the Democratic Party, he has some 'splainin to do, since that makes no sense and is in fact harmful. Competition is good...within the party.

[Equinox Moon]

15. Nov. 16, 2016 Sen. Sanders appointed chairman of Democratic Party Outreach

This is why we have seen so much of Bernie on talk shows, especially right after the hijacked election. Sen. Schumer announced the new leadership changes on Nov. 16, 2016.

There are multiple articles about it, this is but one:

Huffington Post -- Nov. 16, 2016
Bernie Sanders And Elizabeth Warren Win Senate Leadership Posts
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-win-senate-leadership-posts_us_582c8c8be4b030997bbcbf0a

WASHINGTON ― Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) will both have seats at the Senate Democratic leadership table this upcoming session, after party elections put them in new positions of power.
Sanders, who caucuses with Democrats, was named to a new “Chair of Outreach” position. Warren, who was already in leadership, was elevated to a vice-chair title.