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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:02 PM Aug 2012

Banks Falsify Credit Card Lawsuits



Published on Aug 15, 2012 by RTAmerica

Credit card companies are turning to court to collect their debts, but
there is a problem - their lawsuits depend on documents that are
incomplete or inaccurate among other problems. RT's Capital Account
show host Lauren Lyster explains.

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[font size=3]Problems Riddle Moves to Collect Credit Card Debt[/font]

NYT - Dealbook | By JESSICA SILVER-GREENBERG | August 12, 2012


The same problems that plagued the foreclosure process — and prompted a multibillion-dollar settlement with big banks — are now emerging in the debt collection practices of credit card companies.

As they work through a glut of bad loans, companies like American Express, Citigroup and Discover Financial are going to court to recoup their money. But many of the lawsuits rely on erroneous documents, incomplete records and generic testimony from witnesses, according to judges who oversee the cases.

Lenders, the judges said, are churning out lawsuits without regard for accuracy, and improperly collecting debts from consumers. The concerns echo a recent abuse in the foreclosure system, a practice known as robo-signing in which banks produced similar documents for different homeowners and did not review them.

“I would say that roughly 90 percent of the credit card lawsuits are flawed and can’t prove the person owes the debt,” said Noach Dear, a civil court judge in Brooklyn, who said he presided over as many as 100 such cases a day.

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- You've probably noticed the difference in approaches in the way these news outlets describe this subject. RT calls it: ''falsifying'' and the NYT calls it: ''problems''. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out whose side the NYT's is on. But since this mess involves bankers, I think it's safe to say that RT's is the correct definition. More shit from bankers......
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Banks Falsify Credit Card Lawsuits (Original Post) DeSwiss Aug 2012 OP
Absolutely nothing will change until some banksters go to fucking jail. phantom power Aug 2012 #1
Yep, I agree. DeSwiss Aug 2012 #3
This has happened for years... richmwill Aug 2012 #2
Many people are cowed by insitutions..... DeSwiss Aug 2012 #4
May be hiding our money Smilo Aug 2012 #5
Ha! DeSwiss Aug 2012 #6
The 11 am segment of the Diane Rehm show was about this, today (Tues.)... truth2power Aug 2012 #7
Thanks for the headsup. n/t DeSwiss Aug 2012 #8
They're endlessly trying to squeeze blood from a turnip Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #9
I don't think we can go back there.... DeSwiss Aug 2012 #10

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
1. Absolutely nothing will change until some banksters go to fucking jail.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:05 PM
Aug 2012

So far, I don't see much movement in that direction.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
3. Yep, I agree.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:08 PM
Aug 2012
- So far it looks as if the only ones they're prosecuting are the little bankers who stole from the big bankers.

richmwill

(1,326 posts)
2. This has happened for years...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:06 PM
Aug 2012

I once received a letter threatening that I would be sued if I didn't pay a past due amount immediately. I had never had any dealings at all with the credit card company that was listed in the letter, so I wrote one simple letter asking for documented proof that I owed this debt. That was over 5 years ago, never heard a word back from them. Gee, I wonder why...

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
4. Many people are cowed by insitutions.....
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:11 PM
Aug 2012

...and will simply pay money they don't owe.



''Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.....''

~Roy Batty, Blade Runner
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
6. Ha!
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:06 PM
Aug 2012


- Actually, unless its brand new money SMELLS pretty gamey! Not sure I want to sleep on it.....

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,415 posts)
9. They're endlessly trying to squeeze blood from a turnip
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:41 PM
Aug 2012

If people's wages don't go up and stagnate and cost of everyday essentials just keep going up, then WTF are people supposed to do to pay these huge credit card payments that hardly make a dent in the balance due to the incredibly high interest rates?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
10. I don't think we can go back there....
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 02:42 AM
Aug 2012

...not to the kind of wages and employment picture that we once had. We're entering a new paradigm where workers will have to compete against machines.... directly. But with robotic slaves, who needs employees?

- Forty years or so ago, Alvin Toffler tried to warn us:

Between 1955 and 1960, the birth control pill was introduced, television became universalized, commercial jet travel came into being and a whole raft of other technological events occurred. Having spent several years watching the political process, we came away feeling that 99 per cent of what politicians do is keep systems running that were laid in place by previous generations of politicians. Our ideas came together in 1965 in an article called 'The future as a way of life', which argued that change was going to accelerate and that the speed of change could induce disorientation in lots of people. We coined the phrase ''future shock'' as an analogy to the concept of culture shock. With future shock you stay in one place but your own culture changes so rapidly that it has the same disorienting effect as going to another culture." ~Alvin Toffler, Future Shock (1970)


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