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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. Pretty sure most of those who showed there up will vote. It's the losers that stayed home in 2010...
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:31 PM
Aug 2012

...that he needs to yell at.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
6. He's called 'socialist' for this. A question I'd ask those who want to get rid of public employees,
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 09:17 PM
Aug 2012

Especially the generations that went to public schools, used public parks, hospitals, libraries, fire halls, water, and all of the other things from the New Deal:

What was so terrible about that?

If it was good enough for you, and your education got you started in life and publicly owned things helped you out, what has changed?

Other than media telling you it was all evil, that someone is trying to steal something from you?

Why do you turn your back on what that was given to you by generations of Americans, and sell it all off to the lowest bidder, so that your children won't enjoy the same opportunities you had?

Can't you see that doing this leads to feudalism as all the land and services go into private hands, which may or may not allow you anything if you're not connected?

Have you realized that the very voices that are telling you this might not have your best interests at heart, that they are the buyers?

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
8. Well said!
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 09:39 PM
Aug 2012

[font color="green" face="Verdana"]I've tried that approach with a few people in the past, but they think somehow that "that's different."

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. Sad, isn't it. So much division by media. So powerful, it's frightening.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 09:42 PM
Aug 2012

And I gotta go back and correct the spelling on that post before the Spelling Nazis arrive!

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
10. Yes, it is sad. And frustrating.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:33 PM
Aug 2012

[font color="green" face="Verdana"]You mean you made a spelling boo-boo back there somewhere? My editing skills are slipping because I didn't notice it! LOL

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
13. As a local official, I can agree...
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:23 AM
Aug 2012

People want these services. People, when they do get up in front of the podium at local meetings recall "their days" of these things, followed by how they wish their local govt to continue providing them...

That's where it all gets stale. Who reads and follows what has been happening to us over the last 30 odd years?

Do they not understand that all "their days" can progressively get better, providing we continue to understand the bigger picture? Or, do they just want someone to continue what felt good from the past?

Either one takes effort to understand how it all comes about, which is what Obama talks about here, and what the Republicans don't want to talk about.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
14. Yes!
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:39 PM
Aug 2012

Rmoney today is talking about opening up, selling off federal lands for 'energy production'. The legacy and heritage of this country sold to big oil/coal/gas donors. I could scream!

redwhiteblue

(29 posts)
16. A quote from a former president.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:34 PM
Aug 2012

A Quote from Harry S. Truman.
" The Republicans will try to tell you that everything the government does for the country is socialism.They will go to the people and say:"Did you see that social security check you got the other day-you thought that was good for you didn't you? That's just too bad!That's nothing in the world but Socialism.Did you see that new flood control dam the government is building over there for the protection of your property? Sorry,-that's awful socialism.That new hospital that they are building is socialism. Price supports, more socialism for the farmers.Minimum wage laws? Socialism for labor.Socialism is bad for you my friend.Everybody knows that. And here you are with your new car, and your home and better opportunities for the kids and a television set__You are just surrounded by socialism.Now the Republicans say."That's a terrible thing my friend and the only way out of this sinkhole of socialism is to vote for the Republican ticket."
Nothing more needs to be said.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
15. This is our golden opportunity to concentrate
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:41 PM
Aug 2012

on down ticket races. Get those super majorities in the assembly and senate.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
19. Sorry, I half disagree on this one. Republicans deserve a resounding boo!
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 11:09 AM
Aug 2012

And vote!!

Republicans have done nothing to deserve any form of respect.

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