I simply brought up that there are two paths. And that past precedence tells me which path Nancy will take. We will see. We can talk again when that is clear. And IF she and the 'established,or.....lets see...senior, longstanding, (I don't know what word you would find acceptable to describe the more influential names that have steered the party for the last decade or two.), if they will choose war or (a false) appeasement.
The reason why I bring it up was that meme was funny.....but, be honest, do you think that was anything near what she was saying? or even thinking? So it compelled me to make my post, perhaps against my better judgement, ....Now if it was Maxine Waters, for instance, it would have been even funnier because I can imagine more that she really means it, and that Trump might just believe it.
The word preen means to spend time congratulating oneself. Coming to the mic to say what they got out of the deal. That is what politicians do, of all stripes. Maybe it was the too strong a word. I was annoyed when I wrote that. Sorry.
My resolve is always to elevate the Democratic party, I desperately want them to succeed. Perhaps I am overly concerned. But just throwing back that I have an "agenda" that any concerns, even based on precedent, that I raise, is "stale old tired and means nothing' to me also sounds stale and tired to me as a response.
"Our Democratic Party had A Giant Blue Wave that swept over our country last night."....Great! Lets preen for a few days...I mean congratulate ourselves. My point is that this is only the beginning. One of the things we must fight is that we can now relax. To me that extends upwards to our more 'senior' Democrats. I think there may be a temptation to use their political capital they gained from this blue wave to take Trump up on his pretend concilitary tone, in the atempt to gain a slight compromise on GOP policy. Because I think underneath, the GOP and Trump will just use any deal with Democrats to appease moderate Republican voters, and Independents. And that they will turn on a dime if they get the chance. And that we have to continue to keep the pedal to the metal, even if Demcrats are then criticized for NOT working with the President, and are instead bringing inquiries and investigations, and doubling down on our attack.
I believe that that path, may not lead to short term success as far as policy, but it would be a better strategy if we want to get rid of Trump for 2020.
I guess I should be dancing in the streets with the rest of you. I don't want to rain on the parade, but sorry, I've seen this movie.
I want nothing more than to be proved wrong about Democratic response. But that meme is disingenuous because it is not based on any precedence I have seen. But we'll see. I think we have to keep the pressure on them. To let them know we have their backs if they do go to war for us.
I think its way past time for us to stop demonizing each other. We all want the best for the Democratic party. And I don't think it is so inconceivable to be a bit apprehensive that 'senior' Democrats who are 'influential' in the party, will choose a path that they have most often taken. We have to keep up the fight. And if people like me just shut up about that, and crack a drink and join the partiers, I just think it may be a massive disappointment and deflation to the Democratic core voters if the Democratic leadership do not hear that we want them to continue to be aggressive, and so instead choose to run again to kick Trump's shiny new football he may offer.
I also think that just as there are some more conservative leaning and some more left leaning Democrats in our large tent, some religious, and some more atheist, there is also more cautionary, even pessimistic Democrats (based on 10 years of losing seats), and more optimistic Democrats (who I appreciate greatly). We need to accept both, or at least refrain from hurling insults, to be more successful in the future. Go Democrats Go!!!
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) despite the odds and republican gaming of the system , the results were expected. I hope many realise just how steep a challenge it is to undo the ways republicans have trashed democratic norms, and inane/ tired/false commentary trashing the Democratic Party brand serves zero purpose except help republicans. 
Mahalo nui loa, JH
