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Trump Election Advisers Panic After Realizing His Base Is Too Small (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 OP
After the sane people leave the Trump base, all that there will be left.... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2019 #1
Sane people? Surely you jest. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2019 #4
Too small... it's too small, Donald... Blue Owl Jul 2019 #2
I was going to say something similar. geardaddy Jul 2019 #14
They will always have Russia! Iliyah Jul 2019 #3
I've been saying this all along. world wide wally Jul 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jul 2019 #8
We believe that at our own peril. TwilightZone Jul 2019 #6
Some people who are arguably not in his base will vote for him simply because he would be the mobeau69 Jul 2019 #9
agreed. MSNBC segment today - participant mentioned that ads are running in the south and midwest Demovictory9 Jul 2019 #11
Elections are won at the demographic margins. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2019 #12
I agree . . . markpkessinger Jul 2019 #15
The handful of lucky rich capitalist king always gather the dredges of society Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #7
Base? Aussie105 Jul 2019 #10
You perhaps are implying that a narrative can be built around Eyeball_Kid Jul 2019 #13

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,808 posts)
1. After the sane people leave the Trump base, all that there will be left....
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 08:38 PM
Jul 2019

Will be the racist KKK type.

Trump has done nothing to expand the base he thinks he has.Women For Trump? Lie.

Response to world wide wally (Reply #5)

TwilightZone

(25,493 posts)
6. We believe that at our own peril.
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 09:28 PM
Jul 2019

"His base" and the group of people who would vote for him are not the same thing. Some people who are arguably not in his base will vote for him simply because he would be the Republican candidate.

There's little evidence that the group of people who would vote for him is too small to win re-election. His approval ratings are similar to what they were when he won in 2016, if not higher.

We also tend to confuse approval ratings with the group of people likely to vote for him. They aren't the same thing. Plenty of people who disapproved of him voted for him in 2016.

Complacency and overconfidence are not winning arguments.

mobeau69

(11,158 posts)
9. Some people who are arguably not in his base will vote for him simply because he would be the
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 10:40 PM
Jul 2019

Republican candidate and (God forbid) the democrat is for open borders. We have some candidates that need to walk that back post haste. The pukes are already raising money off it.

Demovictory9

(32,479 posts)
11. agreed. MSNBC segment today - participant mentioned that ads are running in the south and midwest
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:43 AM
Jul 2019

that portray dems as antifa, burning down the city nuts. the GOP is laying down the foundation for a 2020 win. We ignore it at our peril

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
12. Elections are won at the demographic margins.
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jul 2019

Consultants will always say that it's the swing voter that determines elections. So no one should expect Trumpy's approval rating to drop 10-20 points, but he'd lose in a landslide if he lost 3-4% of his current support.

markpkessinger

(8,409 posts)
15. I agree . . .
Tue Jul 16, 2019, 03:10 AM
Jul 2019

. . . and even among those whom Farron describes as having been "duped" by Trump, we mustn't underestimate the degree to which they have become emotionally invested in their support for him. And that emotional investment will preclude many of them from seeing reality.

Farmer-Rick

(10,216 posts)
7. The handful of lucky rich capitalist king always gather the dredges of society
Sun Jul 14, 2019, 09:48 PM
Jul 2019

In a coalition of the insanely ignorant racist because those are the only votes they ever get. That's why Nazi Germany happened.

As the rich get richer and use their wealth to manipulate and rig the economy, fewer and fewer vote for their representatives. So, they must move to rig and contrive elections to get their chosen fools in positions of power.

In other words they never had enough votes they only had vote rigging. This is inevitable in a capitalist system.

The only way to get democracy back is to overwhelm the cheat machine. like Obama did. Like we did when we took back the house. We need to vote in huge numbers to stop the Nazification of our country.

Aussie105

(5,440 posts)
10. Base?
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:40 AM
Jul 2019

You mean the RoR (rusted on Republicans) who would vote for anyone just because of (R) - even Trump (pR - pretend Republican)? Or those who feel they still haven't gotten their revenge on those horrible Democrats who are to blame for making their lives trivial, petty and meaningless?

Don't let your guard down. The foreign forces gathering to make the next election go a certain way are out here, plotting and scheming.
They have had a few years to think up some more dirty tricks, after all.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
13. You perhaps are implying that a narrative can be built around
Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:47 PM
Jul 2019

the perception that the Republican Party is no longer "conservative"?

"If you vote Republican, you are not voting conservative." The proof is in the pudding.

There is no longer a conservative movement in national politics because the Trumpy Party is, by their record, NO LONGER CONSERVATIVE, no matter how they try to brand themselves. Folks who see themselves as conservative need to hear that narrative. No one needs to explain exactly what the GOP stands for; they only need to state what it DOESN'T stand for. If the message succeeds, another 2-3% of Trump supporters will drop him.

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