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The ODESSA File (Original Post) bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 OP
Many nazis seem to have escaped to South America blue-wave Sep 2019 #1
Otto Skorzeny, the guy with the scar, was a real bastard. Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #2
The video mentioned he controlled $100 million in Nazi funds post-war bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #3
Many South American dictatorships welcomed the influx. Kid Berwyn Sep 2019 #4
The film Marathon Man was on last week. BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #5
K&R!!!!!!!!!! burrowowl Sep 2019 #6
well llashram Sep 2019 #7

blue-wave

(4,345 posts)
1. Many nazis seem to have escaped to South America
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 11:14 PM
Sep 2019

Some claim Hitler even faked his own death in the bunker and lived into the 1960's in South America. Allegedly Martin Bormann also escaped, having started 600-900 front companies in South America to transfer looted treasure and to keep the dream of reich alive.

The Eden Hotel in La Falda, Argentina was allegedly closely connected to the Nazi regime. The owners, Walter and Ida Eichorn are said to have visited Hitler every year and Ida allegedly received, as a personal gift from the fuhrer, the first Mercedes Benz ever in South America.

I can go on. But just google some of this and you will start to question what really happened way back then.

Author Gerrard Williams wrote 'Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler' and was part of the History Channel series "Hunting Hitler." There's some fascinating stuff if you go down that rabbit hole. If any of it is true, how much of it is affecting our world of today?

Kid Berwyn

(14,808 posts)
2. Otto Skorzeny, the guy with the scar, was a real bastard.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 01:14 PM
Sep 2019
Introduction to The Beast Reawakens

by Martin A. Lee

EXCERPT...

As rumors of Hitler's death swept through the barracks, Remer was told by his commanding officer to arrest Joseph Goebbels, the top Nazi official in Berlin that day. With pistols drawn, Remer led a twenty-man contingent into the Propaganda Ministry, where Goebbels held sway. At that moment, Remer was probably the single most important military officer in Germany.

Encircled by gun-pointing soldiers, a quick-thinking Goebbels told Remer that the conspiracy had failed: Hitler was still alive. To prove his point, he picked up the phone, called the Wolf's Lair, and handed the receiver to Remer. The tall, strapping young officer breathed a sigh of relief when he heard the Fuehrer's voice. Hitler put Remer in charge of all troops in Berlin and ordered him to crush the putsch. Anyone who resisted was to be shot immediately.

It was a heady assignment for Remer, who immediately took control and instructed his troops to establish roadblocks and patrols. They sealed off the city command center and surrounded the army buildings where some of the coup ringleaders were ensconced. Remer was posted at the entrance of the War Office, when SS Colonel Otto Skorzeny, a fierce Hitler loyalist, arrived on the scene with a band of armed men.

Remer introduced himself to Skorzeny and apprised him of the crisis situation. They agreed that no one, regardless of how high in rank, would be allowed to enter or leave until they finished searching the premises. Skorzeny and his SS squadron encountered a mayhem of murder and suicide inside the building. The can-do colonel quickly put a halt to a wave of executions so that suspects could be tortured into naming others and exposing the extent of the plot before they were sent to the gallows.

With Skorzeny in charge of the War Ministry, it didn't take long before the revolt was smashed and the affairs of the High Command were once again in smooth working order. During the weeks that followed, he helped track down the remaining suspects in one of history's most gruesome manhunts. It was an occasion to settle old scores, as two thousand people, including dozens of high-ranking German of ficers, were killed in a paroxysm of military fratricide. Some of the leading plotters were garroted with piano wire and impaled on meathooks, while Nazi cameramen recorded the victims' death throes so that Hitler could view the film in his personal cinema.

For the colonel's invaluable support during the aftermath of the coup attempt, the Fuehrer gratefully declared: "You, Skorzeny, saved the Third Reich." But it was Remer who stole the limelight. His decisive actions were crucial in restoring order in Berlin. Hitler showed his appreciation by promoting Remer to the rank of major general, a distinction that instantly propelled him into Nazi superstardom. Henceforth, Remer would serve as Hitler's bodyguard.

CONTINUED...

http://www.publiceye.org/lee/beast_intro.html

bucolic_frolic

(43,066 posts)
3. The video mentioned he controlled $100 million in Nazi funds post-war
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 01:43 PM
Sep 2019

to recreate the Third Reich? Something like that, unconfirmed.

So that money could still be walking around today. No longer in Reichsbank, but a successor?

Robert Ludlum's books alert to the idea that terrorist organizations scratch each others' backs because they all need funding, and all thrive in political chaos and lawlessness, and hence are fighting legitimate governments and democracy in particular.

Kid Berwyn

(14,808 posts)
4. Many South American dictatorships welcomed the influx.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 02:43 PM
Sep 2019

Things get really complicated in the world of backscratchers.



The Strange Case of a Nazi Who Became an Israeli Hitman

Otto Skorzeny, one of the Mossad’s most valuable assets, was a former lieutenant colonel in Nazi Germany’s Waffen-SS and one of Adolf Hitler’s favorites.


The Forward and Dan Raviv And Yossi Melman (Ha’aretz) Mar 27, 2016 2:54 PM

Excerpt...

According to Mossad research, a decade after the war ended, von Braun invited Krug and other former colleagues to join him in America. Von Braun, his war record practically expunged, was leading a missile development program for the United States. He even became one of the fathers of the NASA space exploration program. Krug opted for another, seemingly more lucrative option: joining other scientists from the Peenemünde group — led by the German professor Wolfgang Pilz, whom he greatly admired — in Egypt. They would set up a secret strategic missile program for that Arab country.

In the Israelis’ view, Krug had to know that Israel, the country where so many Holocaust survivors had found refuge, was the intended target of his new masters’ military capabilities. A committed Nazi would see this as an opportunity to continue the ghastly mission of exterminating the Jewish people.

The threatening notes and phone calls, however, were driving Krug crazy. He and his colleagues knew that the threats were from Israelis. It was obvious. In 1960, Israeli agents had kidnapped Adolf Eichmann, one of the chief administrators of the Holocaust, in far-off Argentina. The Israelis astonishingly smuggled the Nazi to Jerusalem, where he was put on trial. Eichmann was hanged on May 31, 1962.

Snip...

Krug contacted Skorzeny in the hope that the great hero — then living in Spain — could create a strategy to keep the scientists safe.

The two men were in Krug’s white Mercedes, driving north out of Munich, and Skorzeny said that as a first step he had arranged for three bodyguards. He said they were in a car directly behind and would accompany them to a safe place in a forest for a chat. Krug was murdered, then and there, without so much as a formal indictment or death sentence. The man who pulled the trigger was none other than the famous Nazi war hero. Israel’s espionage agency had managed to turn Otto Skorzeny into a secret agent for the Jewish state.

Continues...

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/the-strange-case-of-a-nazi-who-became-a-mossad-hitman-1.5423137



My bet is Skorzeny didn’t really need the money. He just wanted to meet new fiends.

BigmanPigman

(51,571 posts)
5. The film Marathon Man was on last week.
Mon Sep 2, 2019, 06:42 PM
Sep 2019

The main character is an escaped Nazi dentist based on Josef Mengele, the doctor who conducted experiments on people in the camps, especially children and twins. He was helped by tons of people and died of a stroke and drowned while swimming as a free and happy old man. His son met with him and said he was never one bit remorseful. The part that makes me angriest is the way he was allowed to escape and remain free by people who did nothing to capture him and basically allowed him to remain free. He even used his real name and still no one cared enough to do something to get him for over 20 years. He was "hiding" in plain sight.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
7. well
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:20 AM
Sep 2019

what's be expected of what type of situation this represents. Werner von Braun anyone? Yeah, yeah we might have never made it to the moon, yada, yada, yada. America has deep sin in its very soul. Deep, deep evil resides there.

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