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Trump Says He's Suing Former Staffers For Violating Non-Disclosure Agreements (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2019 OP
Bitter, angry, petty, spiteful, louis-t Sep 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #2
I am definately going to buy that card game he referenced Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #3
Yep... sdfernando Sep 2019 #4
This is how one Wellstone ruled Sep 2019 #5
Sure, he is. uberblonde Sep 2019 #6
Trump's Nondisclosure Agreements for Federal Employees Are Authoritarian and Unenforceable Gothmog Sep 2019 #7
Trump NDAs can't silence ex-White House officials: legal experts Gothmog Sep 2019 #8
Trump and Staffers SERVE we the people! WE pay their salaries.... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2019 #9
Just wondering.... Cartaphelius Sep 2019 #10
LOCK HIS ASS UP................................he had fucking spies in the white house turbinetree Sep 2019 #11
Sue Happy drumpf Linda Ed Sep 2019 #12

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
3. I am definately going to buy that card game he referenced
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 03:30 PM
Sep 2019

(IMPEACH) as christmas presents for family and friends ! Hell, I may not wait until then and just purchase it and send it now.

Those NDAs trumpie made everyone sign are not legally defensible in a court of law and he knows it. The Presidential Records Act mandates transparency in all things he says and writes, as well as other documents. He did it to frighten people and keep them from revealing to the press what an inept and incompetent moron he is.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. This is how one
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 03:39 PM
Sep 2019

destroys the Marketability of your ex-employees. This will cost Trump nothing,because he never pays settlements.

Gothmog

(144,951 posts)
7. Trump's Nondisclosure Agreements for Federal Employees Are Authoritarian and Unenforceable
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:25 PM
Sep 2019

This type of agreement is not enforceable https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/trumps-nondisclosure-agreements-for-federal-employees-are-authoritarian-and-unenforceable.html

These agreements are, in all likelihood, legally deficient in a fairly elementary way. Absent consideration (i.e., the thing received by contracting parties in exchange for their agreement to perform/remain silent/forego rights), any nondisclosure agreement would in all likelihood be deemed invalid. Any nondisclosure agreement entered into by a federal employee owing civil damages to any person, let alone the president, also begs the appalling question of what consideration those employees could possibly have received separate and apart from their salaries, which are statutorily prescribed and reported annually to Congress. If they did receive some benefit apart from their salaries—or if the job, and thus the salary, itself was contingent upon signing the agreement—it would be worth contemplating what laws such an arrangement might violate.

The far stronger likelihood is that consideration isn’t present here, rendering these alleged agreements little more than a bullying, speech-chilling, calculated bluff. Marcus cites a draft agreement that makes penalties payable to the federal government (as opposed to Trump personally), but it’s difficult to imagine how that bit of drafting slipperiness would matter, except to attempt to obfuscate that Trump is the real party to the agreement and federal employees are obligees. According to Marcus, some who were reluctant to sign ultimately did so because they figured they were unenforceable anyway. Barring some dark authoritarian turn in our other branches of government, these employees were absolutely correct about this last part.

These alleged nondisclosure agreements represent an attempt to purchase the free speech rights of federal employees for the sake of Trump’s personal protection, paid with only an empty, but perhaps effective, threat. To say such a threat cheapens the presidency grossly understates the constitutional repugnancy of these agreements. This effort reveals the president’s view of himself as an autocratic leader and of his place within the American system as being above it. It further demonstrates his blithering ignorance and disdain for even the simplest and purest of American concepts like free speech and public service.

Gothmog

(144,951 posts)
8. Trump NDAs can't silence ex-White House officials: legal experts
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:33 PM
Sep 2019

It would be fun watching trump attempt to enforce one of these NDAs https://www.reuters.com/article/us-otc-nda/trump-ndas-cant-silence-ex-white-house-officials-legal-experts-idUSKBN1GV2UT

The NDAs, as described by the Post, contain an essential constitutional flaw. White House employees don’t work for President Trump. They work for the United States, so the U.S. is the supposed beneficiary of the non-disclosure agreements.

The U.S., and not President Trump, would also be responsible for enforcing the agreements, said law professors Heidi Kitrosser of the University of Minnesota and Mark Fenster of the University of Florida. But the First Amendment protects people against government restrictions on free speech. “These NDAs strike me as clearly unconstitutional under the First Amendment,” said Kitrosser.

“A public employee,” added Fenster, “can’t be forced to sign away the right to speak.”

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,730 posts)
9. Trump and Staffers SERVE we the people! WE pay their salaries....
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:34 PM
Sep 2019

As with the President, all White House Staff serve the people of the United States. The White House is not like some PRIVATE Corporation where NDAs are the norm. The President answers to us.

 

Cartaphelius

(868 posts)
10. Just wondering....
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:25 PM
Sep 2019

Counting for all soon to be attorney's I wonder if there enough attorneys
in N. America to represent ALL the NDA's every required by Trump?


turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
11. LOCK HIS ASS UP................................he had fucking spies in the white house
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 06:05 PM
Sep 2019

and no one knew about it until the spies published the picture...................talk about non-disclosure agreement bullshit...............

Lock his ass up or impeach the asshole............................and then lock him up.....................and his entire cabal..................

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